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F1Brits_90
World Champion
yeah im confused that calendar as well because since 2018 we have always been in diriyah for opening round. mexico is usually mid February not mid january, but this seems from reading to stem back to april 2022. & so diriyah was moved from dec 2022 to jan 2023. what was the 3rd race turned into the opening race
Formula E delays start of first Gen3 season to 2023 - The Race
The first season of Formula E's Gen3 era is now set to begin a month later than the series' initial aim to take pressure off development time
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this i think is only trialed this season in 2 races. but i think it seems like the teams have got absolute mountain to climb with these new cars, without adding pitstops into this. we might not see what these cars are capable of until sao paulo
yeah that was worry but mexico has always been 1 of the tougher grand prixs to overtake due to how fiddly it is. but as i was saying in my review. dennis & wehrlein pulling away with ease at 0.5/0.75 a lap once they found a way past. is a concern, but its surprising because the rear ends dont look any different, there hasnt been any more downforce or dirty air
F1Brits_90
World Champion
just watching Diriyah Qualifying for Race 1 that i think starts at 5pm in the UK, (on C4 youtube or eurosport) fascinating group qualifying, in great Formula E style, you can learn nothing the Grid order in mexico, the dominant winner Dennis didnt make it in the duels & Di grassi only scraped through in 4th half a second off. then in B Jaguar Proving mexico was a blip & bird is top of the time sheets & evans in 3rd , Buemi is back at the front for the 1st time in what feels like years
but the reigning champions Vergne & Vandoorne, look like they are just a midfield team now & Venturi had a shocker, Mortara who a regular winner & championship contender in Gen 2, no points in Race 1 & both driver putting it in the wall & starting at the back for race 2
but the reigning champions Vergne & Vandoorne, look like they are just a midfield team now & Venturi had a shocker, Mortara who a regular winner & championship contender in Gen 2, no points in Race 1 & both driver putting it in the wall & starting at the back for race 2
F1Brits_90
World Champion
Welcome Back Sebastian Buemi his 1st pole since July 2019, after finishing 21st & 15th in championship last 2 years. i i knew he was too good to be a backmarker. the interview was interesting that he seemed very emotional with the serious doubts he admitted, you wonder if he had considered retirement
also i thought we would finally have got our 1st comparison between Gen 2 & Gen 3, as mexico added an extra chicane 2023, compared to 2022. but pole was 7 tenths slower 2022 - 1:08.6 & 2023 - 1:09.3. which must be to do with the dusty track & no support racing this year because the cars are 60kg lighter & the lowest power setting of 300kw is more than most powerful Q2 setting only used in qualifying Duels of 250KW
also i thought we would finally have got our 1st comparison between Gen 2 & Gen 3, as mexico added an extra chicane 2023, compared to 2022. but pole was 7 tenths slower 2022 - 1:08.6 & 2023 - 1:09.3. which must be to do with the dusty track & no support racing this year because the cars are 60kg lighter & the lowest power setting of 300kw is more than most powerful Q2 setting only used in qualifying Duels of 250KW
F1Brits_90
World Champion
Porsches look very good in the races but not in qualifying. i dont know if its because they have the most efficient power unit, because they just seem to be the quickest, as they can push & still have more battery than anyone else Bird was fighting to stay in the lead he was 39% .Wehrlein & Dennis was on 41% that massive
Wehrlein qualifying 7th > 2nd last week & qualifying 9th to winning yesterday. then Dennis started 12th finished 2nd. at the moment its seems you would be an absolute fool to back anyone but someone with a Porsche power unit & a Wehrlein v Dennis Title battle seems quite nailed on already
although if i put 1 criticism against Wehrlein his run from 6th after the 1st corner to 2nd. he didnt overtake anyone used attack mode early & just passed them while they used attack mode. so it was good tactics but only overtook 1 driver on track
on the others its great to have sam bird looking quick if he went to 3rd, as ive always loved watching him race & i would say rookie mistake from mclaren but its most merc staff. 1.30 attack mode begind teammate. didnt swap harmed chances
Wehrlein qualifying 7th > 2nd last week & qualifying 9th to winning yesterday. then Dennis started 12th finished 2nd. at the moment its seems you would be an absolute fool to back anyone but someone with a Porsche power unit & a Wehrlein v Dennis Title battle seems quite nailed on already
although if i put 1 criticism against Wehrlein his run from 6th after the 1st corner to 2nd. he didnt overtake anyone used attack mode early & just passed them while they used attack mode. so it was good tactics but only overtook 1 driver on track
on the others its great to have sam bird looking quick if he went to 3rd, as ive always loved watching him race & i would say rookie mistake from mclaren but its most merc staff. 1.30 attack mode begind teammate. didnt swap harmed chances
F1Brits_90
World Champion
watching race 2 & that powerunit is absolute beast, its mental how good that is, but im fasinating at what Dennis & Wehrlein are doing in that the team mates DaCosta & Lotterer cant replicate
what ever Bird's Energy Strategy is, in response to yesterday seems to be working. he's the only 1 to match the percentages we have seen only with the porsches & mclaren are Seemingly the opposite of Porsche. all 3 races qualified brilliantly & fallen like a stone in the races
what ever Bird's Energy Strategy is, in response to yesterday seems to be working. he's the only 1 to match the percentages we have seen only with the porsches & mclaren are Seemingly the opposite of Porsche. all 3 races qualified brilliantly & fallen like a stone in the races
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Red Flag Redemption
Test Driver
I don't watch Formula E so I was wondering why you would need pitstops if they can run a whole race on the same set of tires.
F1Brits_90
World Champion
id think, dont know if you know F1 races from the 2005, it would be like then it would be equilivant of re fuelling.
i dont know what the circuit people were thinking in putting that extra chicane in when mexico was already 1 of the most fiddly circuit on the calendar
Red Flag Redemption
Test Driver
Okay, I'm familiar with that era so that makes sense.
I always wondered why they never looked at that for the Gen 1 cars. It would have mad more sense to me to have the battery pack changeable instead of the two car shuffle.
I think that the batteries are so heavy, and the installation so complicated, changing them is simply not practical. This article shows some of the advances made from Gen 1 to Gen 2.
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Formula E Season 7 regulations - Motorsport Tech uncovers all - Motorsport Technology
As Formula E heads into its seventh season, Craig Scarborough looks at what’s next for the sport’s premier electric racing series.
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F1Brits_90
World Champion
loved this video of the ending with jake hughes ruining mitch evans race
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
What this does illustrate is that there are elements of Formula E that still create massive unfairness. If Hughes runs out of allowable energy, he should just be disqualified. By having the car slow right down, it creates a dangerous blockage on the circuit.
F1Brits_90
World Champion
yeah depending on the circuit could be dangerous with the closing speeds, the coasting is a grey area in the rulebook because i think they can run & finish on 0% but if they touch the accelerator at 0% then they are disqualifed
F1Brits_90
World Champion
what a crazy E prix in india, 1 of the all time classics, a great enjoyable circuit, i would certainly catch it up, that took place at 9.30am GMT this morning
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F1Brits_90
World Champion
a race that was very enjoyable at the start, with Evans, Vergne, Buemi, all fighting it out, where jaguar had taken critisism for losing the lead & drop away. losing track position by taking attack mode early & not having the gap. before the race turned on its head on the 2 major parts of the race. & Sam Bird uncharisitally just completely outbraked himself going to the hairpin & smashed into his teammate. destroying both drivers races at their owners home race. Cassidy & Dennis couldnt believe their luck as all of a sudden 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th were gone. cassidy & dennis had jumped up to 3rd & 4th
then with 6 laps to go safety car came out after Jake hughes crashed into the barrier. then rast took out Dennis who was looking set for at least a podium & at least the championship lead, got taken out by a weird crash from rast where both had to retire. then the amazing closing stages where cassidy look when not if he takes the lead, but despite 4% less energy, going into the penultimate lap Cassidy was on 9% & vergne was on 5%. but vergne kept on hanging on for everything he had. he somehow managed to keep him back. to take his 1st win of the season
then with 6 laps to go safety car came out after Jake hughes crashed into the barrier. then rast took out Dennis who was looking set for at least a podium & at least the championship lead, got taken out by a weird crash from rast where both had to retire. then the amazing closing stages where cassidy look when not if he takes the lead, but despite 4% less energy, going into the penultimate lap Cassidy was on 9% & vergne was on 5%. but vergne kept on hanging on for everything he had. he somehow managed to keep him back. to take his 1st win of the season
but outside of the 2 major parts the 1st 12 on the grid, something major happened to them
- Evans taken out by his teammate when 3rd
- Vergne was at a significant battery disadvantage on the final lap
- Buemi finished 3rd but used to much power & penalised to 15th
- Feneztraz, Gunther & Bird - Bird smashed into his teammate & in carnage the other where stuck with no where to go
- Mortara outbraked him & lost his front wing had to pit
- Rast took him & dennis out, by weirdly braking at the correct time & them accerlating into Dennis.
- Rowland penalised for track limits
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
if you ask me, the FE race was a farce. Everyone was going Over track limits at the first chicane, but only a selected few were penalised.
The design of the circuit (with the kerbs) was launching cars and pushing them off the track…. It affected qualifying (What a farce to allow Vergne straight through to the final), and the race (every car was off circuit on almost every lap).
The design of the circuit (with the kerbs) was launching cars and pushing them off the track…. It affected qualifying (What a farce to allow Vergne straight through to the final), and the race (every car was off circuit on almost every lap).
F1Brits_90
World Champion
good point on chicane, it was madness that they didnt have some kind of deterent so they dont use it or just have a straight because nobody was using it. qualifying was a bit of stupid that vergne managed to get on the front row by other failings
