Mercedes and Ferrari in 'secret' Pirelli tyre tests

[rufus_mcdufus]

Look on the bright side - this might give us something to talk about in August?

 

[KekeTheKing]

One can only hope. You can only read so many articles pointing out the obvious fact that "You can't send Newey's brain on Holiday!!!"

 

[F1ang-o]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22792536
More from Mercedes

 

[Mephistopheles]

Looks like it was Nico who spilled the beans...

http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1...at-between-Nico-Rosberg-and-Sebastian-Vettel-

 

[Fenderman]

 

[Mephistopheles]

One for the caption competition fenders?

 

[The Artist.....]

"Of course, I was aware of what their ideas were and what they were testing because I needed to know that to be able to pinpoint for them what was going on," he said."

"We didn't know that when you do a Pirelli tyre test that you don't know what tyres you are testing. You are given codes. Each day there was a batch tested and we still don't know what the conclusions were."

Well, Nico appears to have signed Ross Brawn's ejection warrant from F1. If Rosberg knew what tyres that were being used, but the team didn't, you have to come to one of a few conclusions:

1. Nico Rosberg knew, but the team was a complete idiot and didn't ask him!
2. The team did know what tyres that were being used, but Ross Brawn is lying
3. Nico Rosberg has something to gain from stabbing his team in the back....

This whole affair is surrounded in lies and innuendo... Someone's head will roll, and I suspect it will be Paul Hembery and Ross Brawn.

 

[Brogan]

Someone's head will roll, and I suspect it will be Paul Hembery and Ross Brawn.

I didn't realise they shared the same head

 

[Mephistopheles]

Is Nico out of contract this year? If he is I don't fancy his chances of getting re-signed....

 

[Jos the Boss]

Damn it Nico, you had one job...

 

[The Artist.....]

I suppose one important question is what Mercedes have now told the FIA/the stewards at the Monaco GP... If they've told them that they didn't know what was being tested, then Mercedes really are in a whole heap of trouble... It's liegate all over!!!.... They can't have done that, can they???

 

[Jos the Boss]

So do Mercedes fight for just Lewis and boycott Nico or do they treat them equal and face potential DSQ from the WCC?

Edit: Silly question, of course they treat them equal!

 

[ramilas1]

I'm not sure where the contradiction between Rosberg and Brawn is so obvious?

"Of course, I was aware of what their ideas were (improving tyre safety, performance, longevity?) and what they were testing (different tyres to the current ones) because I needed to know that to be able to pinpointfor them (did the car feel different and how, when, where, etc) what was going on."
He could have added "They worked better with the new parts we had for Spain than the old tyres" but he didn't - he's not an idiot.

"We didn't know that when you do a Pirelli tyre test that you don't know what tyres (we expected sets of super-soft, softs, etc) you are testing. You are given codes. Each day there was a batch tested (no coloured stripes on them) and we still don't know what the conclusions (we provided Pirelli with raw data and driver feedback for them to analyse) were."
He could have added "We have drawn our own conclusions but I'm fucked if I'm telling you" but he didn't - he's not an idiot either.

Both answers are suitably vague in the extreme - only a specific reading of them tells the story somebody has decided upon.


Never Yet again in the field of pseudo-journalism has so much speculative crap been written about so little by so many.
...... and yet again so many are happy to speculate further based upon the original speculation.

 

[sushifiesta]

ramilas1 My thoughts exactly.

 

[KekeTheKing]

If what Brundle just said is accurate, then we know who's head should roll first. Charlie Fucking Whiting!

Brawn claims to have cleared this test via e-mail with Chuck W. That is, using a 2013 car WAS allowed.

If he gave the go-ahead, and Mercedes end up being penalized, then there's no way he can stay on in his current role. Time and time again his word continues to be completely worthless. He causes many more issues than actually clearing them up.

 

[Brogan]

Brawn should know better than to ask Whiting.

 

[KekeTheKing]

But if Charlie's the supposed titular head of the FIA at the circuit, then why does he always confuse the matter further? In other words, he's completely useless.

 

[Road of Bones]

...unless, of course, Charlie Whiting's responses to team's requests are working to someone else's agenda, and are specifically to muddy the waters and provide a bit off-track political scandal and column inches...

 

[Jen]

KekeTheKing, posted earlier:

http://cliptheapex.com/threads/merc...t-pirelli-tyre-tests.6253/page-11#post-200383

Known for a while now, but no mention in the press.

There is 'other' stuff as well, that is not known and, therefore, not mentioned.

 

[KekeTheKing]

Good one Jen. Where did you hear that?

Sorry I missed your post