My god this is dragging on. So now Merc and pirrelli have 15 more days to prepare their case. So the tribunal will start around the 20th June by my reckoning. Could easily be July before this concludes. GET ON WITH IT.
Mercedes and Ferrari in 'secret' Pirelli tyre tests
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ramilas1
Podium Finisher
Can't the tribunal just take a couple of hours to read this thread, all the facts, gossip and biased innuendo are included somewhere.
Then, get Mercedes, Pirelli and the FIA in the same room and argue it out until some geezer coughs to being guilty, and tells truth.
Mind you that could turn into this!
Nico has to play Blondie! ...... and JT would fit as Tuco!
Then, get Mercedes, Pirelli and the FIA in the same room and argue it out until some geezer coughs to being guilty, and tells truth.
Mind you that could turn into this!
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
Pirelli pointed out in their "strongly worded statement" (several posters have included links in this thread) in response to the FIA as to how they went about choosing who to use on that occasion and why. They also claim to have extended the invites as far as reasonably practicable with global invites pre-season followed by various email communications during the season. Unless they are lying through their teeth that shouldn't be an issue.
Is that the same strongly worded statement that said that they hadn't tested any 2013 tyres- only tyres for subsequent championships.... A statement that Paul Hembery explicitly contradicted earlier this week? This sort of thing reminds me of Melbourne 2009a the official line being contradicted by a single statement by a team member- which leads to a tonne of shit!
rufus_mcdufus
Champion Elect
Mind you, if the tyres are unmarked for the tests and only Pirelli know which construction was which, presumably Mercedes would have no idea if they were testing tyres destined for this year or next.
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
rufus_mcdufus
True... But it does still show that the left hand of Pirelli doesn't seem to know what the right hand is doing!!!
True... But it does still show that the left hand of Pirelli doesn't seem to know what the right hand is doing!!!
I'm sorry, I've missed something here, are McLaren implicated as well now?
As I more or less said much earlier if Mercedes do not know from the car data whether or not the tyres in use are this year's or next either there is very little difference or Mercedes do not know what they are doing.
rufus_mcdufus
Champion Elect
But of course, - their name begins with 'M' too. Sorry guys, hand over another £100million!
Fenderman
Rooters Reporter
Perfectly obvious that that was a simple mistake due to writing in the early hours when I should have been asleep. I got timed out during editing the post. I don't mind folk's highlighting my mistakes as I don't have a proofreader. It's nice if when doing so one can be funny or helpful. I don't appreciate smartarse. Thanks.
We're looking at a bare minimum of 30 days until anything else happens here. Mercedes has 15 days to respond, and then the "tribunal" has another 15 days to plan its course of action.
This was fully expected. Dismissing this "protest" out of hand was never in the cards. That would make it seem too obvious that the FIA is in a very tenuous position here. Plus, I'm sure they're eager to trot out their "Council" for the first time.
Brogan - Do you really think the FIA is going to cut off its nose to spite its face? A two engine manufacturer series is wholly unappealing.
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
KekeTheKing
Someone will have to fall on their swords at Mercedes.... Given that Nick Fry is already out of the door, I suspect that will be Ross Brawn.... - a la Ron Dennis.....
Someone will have to fall on their swords at Mercedes.... Given that Nick Fry is already out of the door, I suspect that will be Ross Brawn.... - a la Ron Dennis.....
That would be a shame. If that does occur, then cue the rumor mill that Niki and Toto achieved their goal.
I'm not sure Nico is going to convince many people with the "We learned nothing" line. Millions of people are already predisposed to believe they gained an extraordinary amount from track time alone. Whether they did or not is neither here nor there. If pundits and "experts" say they did learn something, then people will naturally believe they did.
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
teabagyokel...
Haven't you forgotten Niki's time as advisor to Ferrari back in 1993, when they were in a period of dominance... Oh no, wait a minute.... Or Niki's time at Jaguar, when they too were dominant... no that's not right either.....
Haven't you forgotten Niki's time as advisor to Ferrari back in 1993, when they were in a period of dominance... Oh no, wait a minute.... Or Niki's time at Jaguar, when they too were dominant... no that's not right either.....
How self-important is the FIA to label their judicial body the "International Tribunal". Smacks of something from Reality/Drama TV.
This aint the freaking Nuremburg Trials!
This aint the freaking Nuremburg Trials!
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