At what point was Hamilton mentioned in that quote?
Head To Head Jenson Button vs Lewis Hamilton
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Josh
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They're changing Button's set up to one he felt comfortable with earlier in the session and they're changing Lewis' set up too. They don't have one set of engineers for both cars, you know.
How did you ever come to the conclusion that Hamilton's set up is being ignored? That's... pretty baffling.
How did you ever come to the conclusion that Hamilton's set up is being ignored? That's... pretty baffling.
racecub
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No he said it in an interview
You'll find it in here http://totalf1.com/full_story/view/420647/We_were_having_a_lot_of_problems__Hamilton/
riskitall Button said "session". Why on earth are you saying that they will go back to the beginning of the "season"?
racecub if you want to read what Button and Hamilton really said it's at http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2012/6/13481.html a much more reliable source.
racecub if you want to read what Button and Hamilton really said it's at http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2012/6/13481.html a much more reliable source.
racecub
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Bill Boddy I did read that. It confirms some of the things I quoted but thats not all he said.
It seems Lewis is startintg to lose patience with the situation at McLaren. I will say up front that the following information comes from today's daily mail...not a source I like to use for information. Neverthelss the parts Im about to post are actual quotes and I don think they can make up quotes. So its the quotes Im interested in, not the slant put on them by the daily mail.
"It was interesting when I went to the factory last week, I was with my engineer and saw all the other top engineers on one table. They had all of my data out lap by lap and were noting all the things i did differently to Jenson to try and understand things. So he has every detail of what I'm doing differently."
After admitting to be 'confused and lost' after his 16th place Button is more confident for Valencia. "I'm sure he is" added Hamilton. "There's been a lot of work that's gone on for his car"
So its not just sharing set up...its all the top guys taking apart Lewis' races lap by lap and giving all the info to Button.
No wonder there was no time for upgrades this week
It seems Lewis is startintg to lose patience with the situation at McLaren. I will say up front that the following information comes from today's daily mail...not a source I like to use for information. Neverthelss the parts Im about to post are actual quotes and I don think they can make up quotes. So its the quotes Im interested in, not the slant put on them by the daily mail.
"It was interesting when I went to the factory last week, I was with my engineer and saw all the other top engineers on one table. They had all of my data out lap by lap and were noting all the things i did differently to Jenson to try and understand things. So he has every detail of what I'm doing differently."
After admitting to be 'confused and lost' after his 16th place Button is more confident for Valencia. "I'm sure he is" added Hamilton. "There's been a lot of work that's gone on for his car"
So its not just sharing set up...its all the top guys taking apart Lewis' races lap by lap and giving all the info to Button.
No wonder there was no time for upgrades this week
snowy
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There is a distinct possibility that Jenson's problems are soaking up resources at McLaren. However on the plus side it is said that we learn far more from our mistakes than from our successes. And if my experiences are anything to go by that is absolutely the case.
A sorted and quick Jenson is far more of an asset to McLaren and Lewis, than a floundering, disgruntled Jenson. It is time well spent if it makes McLaren wake up to the fact that they need to use creativity and problem solving in all their processes and not just pursue a sterile machine like excellence.
A sorted and quick Jenson is far more of an asset to McLaren and Lewis, than a floundering, disgruntled Jenson. It is time well spent if it makes McLaren wake up to the fact that they need to use creativity and problem solving in all their processes and not just pursue a sterile machine like excellence.
tranquility2k9
Podium Finisher
Jenson fastest in 3rd practice. Brilliant lap and what a comeback by McLaren after a horrid time yesterday.
The Artist.....
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Let's stop with the paranoia shall we? This is FP3. This is not Q1, Q2 or Q3.... (Or even the race!)
F1 is a fast moving sport and spending all that time and resources sorting Jenson's issues out can cause the team to lose focus on the task ahead and inevitably this will impinge on Hamilton. Redbull and Vettel didn't win the championship last year by diverting this level of attention towards Webber during his struggles. Don't get me wrong- i think it is right that Jenson is given the support he needs but i feel a lot of his problems are down to him personally. When you hear all the noises coming out of McLaren since Canada, they've been so pre-occupied ( at least publicly) with trying to establish parity between both drivers that they are almost guilty of forgetting that there is a championship to be won.
That was a bit of a mixed session and it's hard to get a true picture of exactly where McLaren are at. I think they are looking at second row at best and Vettel will probably be on pole, closely followed by the Lotuses.
Is this the Mutton vs. Lambilton thread? 
Sorry for being flippant. I just thought of that and it made me and someone else chuckle. Thought it might tickle some of you too.
Sorry for being flippant. I just thought of that and it made me and someone else chuckle. Thought it might tickle some of you too.
The Artist.....
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All 3 sectors on Hamilton's fastest lap were slower than the 3 sectors on Button's fastest lap.... But as I keep saying, this is just FP3!
8-0 in qualli now. No excuses today.
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