Head To Head Jenson Button vs Lewis Hamilton

[Brogan]

The thread won't be closed, there's no reason for it to be.
It will just drift naturally down the list like all others do.

 

[MCLS]

Interesting stat. Points scored by Hamilton since Bahrain 2010 - 609. Points scored by Button since Bahrain 2010 - 603. Over 2 and 3/4 years, they're only 6 points apart from each other

 

[Il_leone]

well I see the irony in all this

Jenson only won the world title because of his car and is not as good as Lewis
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The team that Jenson's wins the title with becomes Mercedes who express no real desire to keep him despite his status thinking their favoured son will not only sell the road cars and bring instant success
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Jenson plays throws himself into the lion's den to prove he can race and beat Lewis in the same car

1st season shows good race craft to take 2 wins and keep himself within touching distance of the title and Lewis in 2010

2nd season a slow start for him erupts into life with the collision in Canada which he wins and 2nd win in Hungary starts off a period of consistency where he gets the better of LEwis and becomes the first teammate to beat him which rattles Lewis

3rd season Jenson has been closer to Lewis in quali and consistent race pace barring the mid season slump

Spa where Jenson blitzes Lewis in quali and that twitter feed was the straw that broke the camel's back for Lewis and Mclaren

It appears Lewis did not take too kindly that even Jenson had an opinion about twittering

Incidentally Monza where Lewis won, Ron Dennis did not join the team support in rocket red and there was not a smile on his face says it all

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Usually its the younger driver that forces the older driver out of the team

I do believe despite what Lewis has said about equal status - the competitiveness of Jenson Button is part of the reason he moved as well

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Lewis joins the team that forced out Jenson and in that time their current drivers finished below Jenson in the championship and Jenson has managed to improve his credibility even higher with more wins , beating and forcing Lewis out of Mclaren

 

[no-FIAt-please]

Perhaps Button didn't force Hamilton out of McLaren, perhaps it was their inability as a race team.

As for Hamilton and Button's 6 point difference in 3 years, that's really close. However I will say that includes what many people consider to be Hamilton's worst season to date and Button's best, I'm merely making an observation here don't shoot me. Although the result speaks for itself .

Jenson has certainly done himself no harm in going to McLaren, he's proved to the doubters that it wasn't all the car in 2009. However he's also shown although he's a very good driver he's not quite 'top drawer' (IMO), as usually all things being equal it results in Hamilton coming out on top.

Still a very interesting battle between the team-mates it was...

 

[Il_leone]

I still think Button so ultra competitive is a factor and his calmness approach compared to the sometimes volatile Hamilton was welcomed by the team... that is probably down his experienced years in having to battle against odds in constantly inferior cars and having to overcome them ..that is where Hamilton has been lacking in experience in order to deal with things that don;'t go his way

 

[Il_leone]

thinking ahead to next season

there won't be any dispute about car numbering system then between the two

Unless Button wins the title , Mclaren are likely to get car no 3 and 4 and I would think Button would get No 3 being the senior driver

Looks like car No 4 - Lewis' car is going to struggle to win the title possibly now

Otherwise Mclaren will get 5 and 6....are Vodafone still sponsoring Macca then because Button will be red 5

 

[Mephistopheles]

Jenson was also labelled a playboy in his early career by Flabio and he changed his approach to the sport, Lewis has yet to do that...

 

[Il_leone]

Mephistopheles

Well this could define Lewis as a truly great driver if he can turn around Mercedes and make up the difference

 

[Mephistopheles]

Could be it is in his hands....

 

[Brogan]

As good as any driver is, they can't turn a midfield car into a title challenger; at least not during one season anyway.
Yes the odd win may be possible but that will be about it.

 

[teabagyokel]

Brogan - If he makes next year his 1996, then his reputation will be significantly bolstered.

 

[Il_leone]

Brogan this is why its a huge risk

What if he suffers Schumacher esque reliability problems then ? How would he cope potentially with watching from the sidelines

 

[Il_leone]

what will irk Hamilton is if MClaren continue their current form and Button ( and Perez) share the spoils

 

[Kamui-FastestChefInTheWorld]

I'll ask again, is this the most commented-on thread on Clip the Apex?

 

[Viscount]

The actual Hamilton thread has more posts.

 

[Mephistopheles]

What ever happens it will ensure lively debate on here and make next season well worth watching.....

 

[Mephistopheles]

As good as any driver is, they can't turn a midfield car into a title challenger; at least not during one season anyway.
Yes the odd win may be possible but that will be about it.

And lets be honest Ferrari would have turned around with or without Schumacher given their pedigree...

 

[Brogan]

I'll ask again, is this the most commented-on thread on Clip the Apex?

Does it matter?

The most commented thread is the one where all the staff bitch about how difficult it is to keep this place from blowing up

 

[Mephistopheles]

I echo "Does it matter?"

 

[Chad Stewarthill]

Woohoo! Whether it matters or not, we've just reached 2000 posts.