Qualifying restructured

[Galahad]

Keep 3 sessions but only allow the drivers one hot lap in each?

 

[Road of Bones]

That's about all they have now...(yes, I know his Lewisness did a second lap to get pole)

 

[Galahad]

But that's the point: with a second chance the status quo (fastest first) is more likely to be the result.

 

[Greenlantern101]

How about a 2 part qualifying.

First Session, 20 minute free for all to set the running order for part 2. Then part 2 each car does 1 lap on super soft.
Use any tyre you want to start the race.

 

[RasputinLives]

Boom. Sorted Greenlantern101 best idea I've heard in ages.

 

[The Pits]

You would need a different set of rules if there was a wet track which was drying out!!

 

[cider_and_toast]

Can anyone explain what exactly was wrong with the drivers having a free for all to set their fastest time during the 1 hour session? Do those who complain about the lack of on track action in the first 20 or so minutes enjoy the 1 hour build up program before hand?

 

[Greenlantern101]

One time at Silverstone we sat in the grandstands for 40 minutes without a single car on track during qually. The 1 hour format sucked. That's why it was changed.

 

[Greenlantern101]

You would need a different set of rules if there was a wet track which was drying out!!

Why it would give a mixed grid the same as any qually system in changeable weather.

 

[teabagyokel]

...but an unfair mixed grid, as Massa's time showed.

 

[cider_and_toast]

One time at Silverstone we sat in the grandstands for 40 minutes without a single car on track during qually. The 1 hour format sucked. That's why it was changed.

Ok, so we keep the free for all but reduce qually to 30 minutes.

 

[The Pits]

iI was just thinking that

Why it would give a mixed grid the same as any qually system in changeable weather.

if the order of q2 laps is dependant on q1 times, changeable weather cogld lead to q1 not having any running. Unless you still drop the last 5 cars,then the fastest driver can choose his slot for q2.

 

[The Pits]

and while im at it, why not remove parc ferme rules? Engine and gearbox aside, do what you want!!

 

[RasputinLives]

Use Formula E's system.

4 groups if 6/5 runners picked randomly get an unlimited 15 min session. Top 5 after all sessions are finished get a one lap shoot out session to decide poll.

 

[Dartman]

Why not practice4/ set up for 30min-45 min free tyres but only one type, not part of your allowance, then straight into 1 lap shoot out on a new tyre of your choice, it's yours to start or use, but you must use, rain or not, unless qualifying is on wets.

 

[cider_and_toast]

RasputinLives

What? And admit that the worlds premier single seat motorsport can't come up with their own innovative qualifying rules?

Never !!

 

[Greenlantern101]

It needs to be simple. Lots of sessions, knock outs etc are too complicated.

 

[sushifiesta]

Grid order by difference to team mate's lap time. If you're slower than your team mate you can't start above 12th. Huge loop holes for team orders and would completely ruin a lot of potential battles in the race, so exactly what F1 is looking for. Also, big middle finger to pay drivers.

Grid for Bahrain:
1 Ericsson
2 Ricciardo
3 Wehrlein
4 Hulkenberg
5 Magnussen
6 Vettel
7 Grosjean
8 Hamilton
9 Vandoorne
10 Verstappen
11 Bottas
12 Massa
13 Sainz
14 Button
15 Rosberg
16 Gutierrez
17 Raikkonen
18 Palmer
19 Perez
20 Haryanto
21 Kvyat
22 Nasr

I'll get on the phone to Bernie now.

 

[ramilas1]

I can actually forgive them the aggerate time thing back in 2005 as it fitted more with old system. .... ..... ..... ..... Bernie wasn't quite as nuts as he is now, the TV bomb had not exploded and the manufacturers had not moved in on the sport as a big advert for their brand(although plenty of team politics).

Simpler times. All F1 was trying to do then was change the rules to stop Ferrari winning.

And so the 'change the rules to stop things' began in earnest; and they've been trying to stop things rather than trying to improve things ever since!

 

[cider_and_toast]

I thought the one where they stop people watching has worked very well.