Grand Prix 2024 Italian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Like buses before privatisation, we have no Grands Prix for a month and then two come along almost immediately. This time we are off to the "Temple of Speed", or the Autodromo Nazionale Monza, as it is officially called. If you only ever visit one live motor race in your life, go to Monza. The organisation, as you would expect from Italy, is an utter shambles. There are not enough toilets, buying food requires a PhD in finance, getting in to and out of the circuit takes literally hours (unless you do what I did and walk down the side of the queue to the front and go straight in), and an espresso will cost you €5. Please don't try and take in any of your own food, drink, or a power cell to recharge your phone, as these will be confiscated at the gate.

But the food, when eventually you get it after going through three different queues, is fabulous. The €5 espresso is delicious. And you will sit in the most passionate motor racing environment in the world, where every time a Ferrari goes past, everyone, apart from the drunk Dutch fans, gets up and cheers. If a Ferrari is leading, or makes an overtake, the place erupts with a noise it is impossible to describe, and they boo their pantomime villains until they win, and then they cheer them even if they weren't in a Ferrari.

This year, the early races descended in to the widely predicted Max Verstappen show, but as the season has progressed other teams, particularly McLaren, have caught up and passed the Bulls. After the twists and turns of Zandvoort it will be interesting to see who is fastest at the ultra high speed Monza track. Expect Ferrari to put on a show, in qualifying at least. I should say, for those of you hoping for some sort of run at the title from Lando Norris, unless McLaren get Mr Pastry to run Max off the track at two or three races the title is a done deal. The Red Bull might not be the best car on the grid, but what Max is able to extract from it is quite astonishing, particularly given the dismal performance of his team mate.

We have a new driver this weekend, with Williams dropping Logan Sargeant in favour of Franco Colapinto. Presumably last weekend's excursion in to the barriers at Zandvoort was one crash too many. Colapinto is a Williams academy driver from Argentina who's record in junior series is good, but not stellar. One assumes his brief is simply not to crash.

F2 and F3 are back this weekend, with the ladies from the F1 academy being popped back in the motor homes where they belong, returning to decorative and PR duties. Expect more sexist pictures from Aston Martin of the 43 year old Fernando Alonso with a couple of twenty something women draped over him.

Here's the schedule of the F1 race. To see when everything else takes place click here - FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAN PREMIO D’ITALIA 2024 - full timetable | Formula 1®

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In the same car Hamilton loses to Russell more often than not in both the race and qualifying, so what you are really saying F1Brits_90 is that Verstappen and Russel are the two quickest, at the moment we'll ignore Norris
yet hamilton is 6th & russell is 8th in the championship. yes hamilton has struggled with qualifying he admits himself. but he was unlucky when in F1 history have you been 2 tenths off pole & on 3rd row

if you were give hamilton or russell. as much i think russell is highly talented. give me hamilton every day. for what he did in Chinese sprint race, british gp & for 95% of Beligium gp
 
Red Bull must quickly respond to their performance declinee.Engaging Adrian Newey willl be crucial to improving the car's competitiveness.Verstappen deserves the b\est tools to fight for the title.In Monz a, we might see how other teams handle the pressure:yes:
 
Red Bull must quickly respond to their performance declinee.Engaging Adrian Newey willl be crucial to improving the car's competitiveness.Verstappen deserves the b\est tools to fight for the title.In Monz a, we might see how other teams handle the pressure:yes:

The way it looks at the moment is that RedBull have no idea what the problem is, plus how much has the money spent on the damage repairs of Perez car, through the mid season hampered there ability to have funds for car development.
 
The way it looks at the moment is that RedBull have no idea what the problem is, plus how much has the money spent on the damage repairs of Perez car, through the mid season hampered there ability to have funds for car development.
i heard from 5 live F1. that the old floor isnt quick enough anymore. the new floor has been disappointing. but they ended up with a "franken-floor" trying to add the new bits they know work on to the old floor
 
i heard from 5 live F1. that the old floor isnt quick enough anymore. the new floor has been disappointing. but they ended up with a "franken-floor" trying to add the new bits they know work on to the old floor
I thought they had a bunch of intelligent engineers seems like Rob Marshall who left for Mclaren was one of the key engineers they've lost as well and his influence is clear seeing how Mclaren are the fastest car and Red Bull are probably now 4th fastest
 
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We all know what the problem is at Red Bull. Since the staff canteen stopped serving a bespoke fine dining menu washed down with the finest Champagne and coffee breaks aren't accompanied by caviar their wind tunnel data just hasn't been as accurate as it once was
 
Red Bull and Verstappen are getting away with their dip in form because they established a decent lead at the start of the season. On top of that, Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes keep taking points from each other.
 
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if you dont win the championship. monaco gp & monza aint a bad consolidation. he joins & becomes only the 6th Ferrari driver to win twice at monza following Alberto Ascari, Phil Hill, Clay Regazzoni, M Schumacher & Rubens Barrichello

& since this only 3 other drivers have won for ferrari at monza Schumacher, Barrichello & Alonso. no wonder leclerc is god like figure at Ferrari
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Red Bull and Verstappen are getting away with their dip in form because they established a decent lead at the start of the season. On top of that, Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes keep taking points from each other.
if you'd offered verstappen that he only lose 8pts after qualifying when it looked like 17. he would have ripped your hand off for that
 
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