Grand Prix 2018 Italian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Angel

Pole Sitter
Contributor
Unless Hamilton throw his car into the wall (or gets shoved into a wall by someone like say ..... Max?) and Seb gets a win which closes the title race up nicely again ;)
 

Ruslan

Podium Finisher
Unless Hamilton throw his car into the wall (or gets shoved into a wall by someone like say ..... Max?) and Seb gets a win which closes the title race up nicely again ;)
Well, in the days when half the cars wouldn't finish a race....a one race lead in the points 7 races from the end didn't mean as much. But.......it is more significant now. Still the odds of someone going out in the last 7 races is pretty high. Hamilton has finished before 5th in only 1 out of 14 races these season. Vettel has finished below 5th in only 2 out of 14 races. So, 3/28 chance of finishing below 5th....seven races to go, so 80% chance that either Vettel or Hamilton will finish below 5th in one or more races. Needless to say, if it happens to Vettel, Hamilton has the season. If it happens to Hamilton, it almost evens the points.
 

F1Brits_90

Race Winner
interesting news from Italy, the fastest track on the calendar wants to make it even faster. remove likely the della roggia chicane and reprofile the 2nd Lesmo, as part of what could be a €100 million revamp to mark the track’s centenary in 2022.so it can seal its position as the ‘Temple of Speed’.

Monza considering chicane removal in track revamp

but would they have to use the dispension to use for Monaco & not use distance for this race as well because its already 1hr 17min & you take that chicane out then. you be into 1hr 5mins. so would have add maybe 10laps
 

Il_leone

Champion Elect
Monza can actually be boring if you can't overtake which without the DRS is actually quite difficult surprisingly on a circuit with long straights
 
I don't think that by removing La Roggia they would create more overtaking going into braking for Lesmo 1, the braking distance wouldn't be long enough for that, maybe they could allow for some passing in the newly created straight (I wonder if a new straight would mean a closer angle on entry for Lesmo 1).

Re Lesmo 2 I'm biased since the old Lesmo 2 was the last turn that I ever drove in anger in a racing car :facepalm: having said that I think that the plan is silly because you can't recreate the emotions associated with a car taking at high speed a kerb on the outside of a fast turn getting shockingly close to a brick wall, on the one hand I don't think that the risk appetite for such things is there any more and on the other with today's cars they wouldn't be able to ride the kerb like it was done over 20 years ago for the very simple reason that today's cars have far less suspension travel, they'd be bottoming out and spin out of control (it's not a nice place where to spin out of control, I can assure you of that)
 
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RasputinLives

So Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Contributor
Publius Cornelius Scipio I have to say I'm fascinated to know more about your racing career. Sounds like you had a lot of great experiences? Any chance we could convince you to write us an article on it? Would be very welcome and entertaining - especially in the close season when we're all gagging for Motorsport action.
 
Publius Cornelius Scipio I have to say I'm fascinated to know more about your racing career. Sounds like you had a lot of great experiences? Any chance we could convince you to write us an article on it? Would be very welcome and entertaining - especially in the close season when we're all gagging for Motorsport action.
it' nothing to write home about, it lasted only a few years (1988 to 1991) and I never went further than "b" class F3 (previously known as F2000, ie F3 cars at least 1 year old). I wouldn't say that I had a lot of great experiences, I had some experience especially due to the fact that to fund my racing I was doing a lot of testing (when testing wasn't considered very sexy). Being Italian I am rather familiar with Italian tracks and so with Monza, even though when I was a kid my local venue was Imola. When I ran out of money/opportunities and after I did what the "experts" behind the proposed changes for Monza think interesting (= riding the outside kurb at high speed, only to slam head on against the inside wall...) I concentrated on my university studies, like a lot of my fellow competitors did when their careers hit a brick wall (in my sense, literally). In essence a missed chance, and while I had a lot of fun racing go-karts I don't have very fond memories of my few years of single seater racing, with go-karts I was winning rather often and I had no problems, with single seaters I didn't have any backers so no money no good car and no great results. Oh and I was changing teams quite a lot, in essence when someone had a car and no driver I was one of the guys that would normally be called for a few races, normally until someone with either a sponsor or a willing dad (sometimes both) would turn up. notwithstanding the fact that I was known for having no technical knowledge whatsoever (engineers often told me that to be a good test driver you either had to know everything about a car or know absolutely nothing, I was in the second group, my job was to give my impressions and do what I was told, I have never asked for 3 degrees of bandella or moving up 1mm the front of the car) when I now watch a F1 race I think that I can understand what is going on, despite the fact that some of the tricks of the trade that I have learned over the years are now irrelevant (ie it's now impossible to know what engine setting a car is running by watching the colour of the exhaust).

After this moment of nostalgia I better get back to working because it's year end ;)
 
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RasputinLives

So Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Contributor
Sound like a lot to write about to me and anytime you feel like reminiscing then would love to hear more. Thank you for sharing.
 

Dartman

Points Scorer
I suppose it comes as no surprise that you are Italian as your written English surpasses many of the English speaking natives:whistle:
 

Titch

Champion Elect
Premium Contributor
I think the history of Monza's banked curves speak for themselves Olivier . They were really exciting, fast, but they killed peaple.
 

Olivier

Race Winner
True Titch but with the technical advancements of the modern F1 and a more modest backing, the risk could be similar to that of other dangerous tracks like Spa or Lemans
 

Bill Boddy

Professional layabout
Contributor
I can remember DSJ writing about the Italian GP in the days when it was a flat out dash. At the start everyone set off at full tilt and as it progressed the order of the day was slipstreaming, the slightest mistake which a driver made resulting in losing the slip and that was the end of the race.

Unfortunately all too often at high speeds the slightest error would cause a driver to leave the track often resulting in a fireball. Thank goodness that does not happen now, it is a shame though that it could not be done without emasculating the racing.
 
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