Grand Prix 2011 German Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

It's turning out to be a strange old season

Mixed conditions and poor pit stops paved the way to an enthralling race, while it had one of the lowest overtaking figures of the year, it certainly showed that overtaking isn't the be all and end all of grand prix racing, however the two Mclaren drivers showed that overtaking can be exciting.

Of the runners and riders, Ferrari have made the biggest gain and maybe, just maybe, Red Bull have lost their monopoly over the top step of the podium and we might finally have a championship, however I'm sure I have said this after China and Canada.......

The curious case of Mclaren continued apace this weekend as they had no pace, found pace and then lost it again. In the changeable conditions at the start of the race, Hamilton and Button charged through the field until the dry conditions when the natural order reasertied themselves, however, it is hard to see how they really showed in fully dry conditions as Button lost a wheel nut early on and Hamilton had to fuel save for the latter part of the race.

Going into the German Grand Prix, Red Bull will understandably be favourites as Sebastian Vettel looks to extend his lead at the top of the championship as he continues in his quest for back to back champions (and the youngest to do so before I'm mistaken) but he'll have to fight off a resurgant Mark Webber who is finally challenging his team mate again after a slow start to the season after he struggled to acclimatise to the Pirelli tyres, he was also stung by the team orders at the end of the last Grand Prix, so you can't bet against him for at least a podium position next weekend.

Renault seem to have disappeared after a strong start to the season, Vitaly Petrov seems to have fallen back into 2010 mode after a strong start to the season. Nick Heidfeld has fared better recently and still features in the lower ends of the points, however a podium seems a long way away, a theory solidified as their side exhausts have had to be abandonded due to the propsed rules, however with the debate going on at the moment, this may not be the case after all.

Mercedes seem to have found pace recently, Rosberg is constintely in the midle of the points while Schumacher seems more like himself again, in more ways than one.......... But at his home grand prix, he will be keen to show that he still has it, along with a large number of German drivers, the most represented country on the grid, so many people will be keen to show that they are the best German on the grid.

Team lotus made it into Q2 again which is a major achievment for them and shows that they are getting closer to the midfield and their major goal of getting points before the end of the year so they can beat Virgin and Hispania.

This year we return to the Nurburgring as part of the deal is that the circuit alternates with Hockenheim, last time we were there was in 2009 where Mark Webber won his first grand prix in the Red Bull. In recent memory Nurburgring will be best remembered for the crazy race in 2007 where a heavy rain shower caused havoc at the start of the race and famously allowed Markus Winkelhock to lead the race in his Spyker, joining the elite of people who led a race in their first (and only race)

For Galahad's excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/nurburgring/
 
I'm not quite sure whether any of this matters one jot. Massa's highly unlikely to be in front of FA during the race I would have thought?
 
On the evidence of this so far with McLaren bringing themselves into play, tomorrow may yet be a cracker between the top three teams.
 
Massa once again using a set of soft tyres in Q1.

Is he really that unsure of his ability to get through to Q2 without them?
 
Realistically though he only has to beat one of the midfield drivers as the bottom 6 places are usually taken by Virgin, HRT and Lotus.
 
Wow, what a lap from Lewis. Mark really loves this place doesn't he? Alonso will be very disappointed but that is a very fast starting Ferrari he has and with Vettel lurking behind this should be a fascinating race. And if any rain arrives then it'll be a must watch. Too bad I'm going to miss it live :(
 
Why would Ferrari not ask him to move over for Alonso. An absolute no brainer.

Eeekk, now you've set the dogs after the hare Kewee LOL

I didn't say Ferrari wouldn't ask Massa to move over. I said Massa wouldn't give up a win by moving over given how far behind Vettel Alonso is. There's a difference. Look at RBR ordering Webber and Webber refusing.

Everyone forgets that Vettel's lead over Alonso is so massive that Massa won't care about an order from Ferrari. It's not like Alonso has any realistic shot of winning the championship.

Anyone thinking Alonso has any realistic chance of over-hauling Vettel in this year's WDC is dreaming, frankly! And under such circumstances, It's actually brainless to think Massa would simply move over and give up a win. He would be ridiculed out of his homeland...and all the team managers would think Massa's a joke!
 
Webber and Hamilton looked were awesome.

How Hamilton made up for that 3-4 tenth deficit in the middle sector is astonishing.

Hopefully tomorrow they don't squeeze each other too hard and let Vettel sneak by.

Yet another corker on the cards. Put the Champ under pressure and see how he copes.
 
It's worth pointing out that the start line is about 250 metres closer to the first corner.
So there will be a lot less time to make up places at the start.
 
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