Too late! The tea is spilling out of the saucer as well, and reports are coming in of a stained tablecloth, and a soggy biscuit to boot...If this storm continues to pick up speed, it may even reach the edge of the teacup!
Too late! The tea is spilling out of the saucer as well, and reports are coming in of a stained tablecloth, and a soggy biscuit to boot...If this storm continues to pick up speed, it may even reach the edge of the teacup!
The moment a driver needs that level of motivation is the moment he needs to think about retiring. I think it's more than likely the quote was to ensure Hamilton couldn't challenge Alonso as this still became a concern for them later in the race and that the wording was really unfortunate. If it's anything other than that then it is quite sinister.
A Freudian slip? I think that may be a step too far. He didn't say "brake test Hamilton." He said to race Hamilton for the position.
Well put Sly but you honestly think Massa and Smedley thought they could beat Hamilton?
Except he didn't he said "hold Hamilton as much as we can, Destroy his race as much as we can. Come on Boy!"
Well put Sly but you honestly think Massa and Smedley thought they could beat Hamilton?
Now my turn to give this some perspective... It's Ferrari.
Now my turn to give this some perspective... It's Ferrari.
And I remember you saying the McLaren pitwall had to keep Hamilton extremely motivated, does that mean he has to think about retiring? Does it mean the rest of the 23 drivers need to retire since they all get motivation talk through their engineers?
I don't doubt if it wasn't Hamilton quite so many people wouldn't be quite so eager to defend Ferrari/Smedley/Massa.I am starting think that's the main reason why there's a fuss, because it's "Ferrari", I doubt if McLaren, Red Bull or Sauber engineers said something like that we wouldn't even have this thread
I don't doubt if it wasn't Hamilton quite so many people wouldn't be quite so eager to defend Ferrari/Smedley/Massa.
See what I did there?
Thanks for taking that completely out of context. I said "the moment a driver needs that level motivation" as in being told to "destroy" someone elses race to make them feel better is way too far.
Just for avoidance of doubt, as with my post you quoted, this is what I was referring to when i made that post...
"by making Massa think that he would ruin Hamilton's race by keeping him behind would probably be just the sort of motivation that Massa needed last weekend"
When I spoke about Hamilton, the motivational talk was to keep him going in the race and to get points. Not motivating him by telling him he could 'destroy' someone elses race.
So? Its either wrong or it isn't!
So? Its either wrong or it isn't!
True but he didn't also didn't say "Destroy him with all your might and brake test him so he can hit you"
I am starting think that's the main reason why there's a fuss, because it's "Ferrari", I doubt if McLaren, Red Bull or Sauber engineers said something like that we wouldn't even have this thread
Yep, but I would defend it if it's any driver, as I think it's quite a bit of nonsense to make something so big out of something very small.
If Hamilton was told to destroy someone elses race I wouldn't think much of it at all...
Sorry about that
But I hardly think "destroy his race as much as you can" is a great motivational speech, and I highly doubt it got Massa motivated as he was already probably motivated to do the best job he could, which, he was doing at thatt point.
You say I have taken it out of context, but I can also say that you have taken the radio message out of context and a few other things on the matter too.
..... And similarly, if it weren't Hamilton, then quite so many people wouldn't be eager for Massa to be hung out to dry!I don't doubt if it wasn't Hamilton quite so many people wouldn't be quite so eager to defend Ferrari/Smedley/Massa.
See what I did there?
It has always been thus when it comes to any discussion involving Hamilton...... And similarly, if it weren't Hamilton, then quite so many people wouldn't be eager for Massa to be hung out to dry!
It has always been thus when it comes to any discussion involving Hamilton.
There really are very few neutrals so it is always the same people on the same sides every time just posting tit-for-tat comments.