Qualifying Statistics #12 - Spa-Francorchamps


Contrary to what I wrote a few minutes ago, I HAVE done the Qually stats for Spa.


Average Starting Position 2009 - after Spa-Francorchamps, Qualifying #12

2009     2009                        2008     2007     2006     2005    2004
Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos ASP Pos ASP
==============================================================================
1. [2] 3.83 [+0.38] S Vettel 10 11.00 15 14.38 - - - - - -
2. [1] 4.25 [+0.89] J Button 16 14.72 14 13.94 3 7.78 4 5.9 3 5.5
3. 4.33 [-0.03] R Barrichello 17 14.83 16 15.00 6 7.61 13 10.5 2 4.6
4. 6.33 [+0.24] M Webber 9 9.17 7 9.06 7 11.06 8 8.0 13 9.7
5. 7.75 [+0.20] N Rosberg 12 12.11 9 9.88 12 13.33 - - - -
[7] 7.75 [-0.16] K Räikkönen =3 4.39 3 3.53 4 5.83 2 5.7 9 8.2
7. [6] 8.08 [+0.44] F Alonso 6 6.89 2 3.18 1 4.28 1 4.0 7 7.6
8. 8.67 F Massa 1 2.94 4 4.24 2 6.67 17 11.9 18 13.5
9. 8.92 [-0.63] J Trulli 7 7.61 8 9.24 14 10.28 5 6.1 6 6.7
10. 10.83 [+0.38] H Kovalainen =3 4.39 10 10.71 - - - - - -
11. 11.08 [+0.08] L Hamilton 2 3.89 1 2.59 - - - - - -
12.[13] 11.50 [-0.59] R Kubica 5 5.83 6 7.00 9 8.83 - - - -
13.[14] 11.58 [-0.78] N Heidfeld 8 9.00 5 5.41 10 10.17 12 9.6 21 16.0
14.[12] 11.92 [+0.56] S Nakajima 18 15.11 22 19.00 - - - - - -
15. 12.00 [-0.45] T Glock 11 11.11 - - - - - - 22 16.5
16.[17] 14.10 N Piquet 14 13.50 - - - - - - - -
17.[18] 15.00 [+0.09] S Buemi - - - - - - - - - -
18.[19] 15.67 [-0.42] A Sutil 20 18.94 23 20.29 - - - - - -
19.[20] 15.75 [-1.34] G Fisichella 19 18.33 11 10.82 3 5.61 3 5.7 17 12.3
20.[16] 16.50 [+2.50] R Grosjean - - - - - - - - - -
21. 17.11 S Bourdais 15 13.67 - - - - - - - -
22. 18.33 [-0.77] J Alguersauri - - - - - - - - - -
23. 20.00 L Badoer

Average positions include all demotions such as engine/gearbox change penalties,
but not necessarily last-minute changes such as pitlane starts.


Average Team Starting Position 2009 - after Spa-Francorchamps, Qualifying #12

2009                       2008      2007      2006     2005      2004
Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos ASP
===========================================================================
1. 4.29 [+0.43] Brawn 9. 14.78 8. 14.47 4. 7.75 4. 8.5 3. 6.8 *
2. 5.08 [+0.31] Red Bull 6. 11.00 6. 11.21 8. 14.65 7. 11.2 6. 11.7 *
3. 9.13 [+0.37] Ferrari 1. 3.67 2. 3.88 2. 6.06 6. 9.4 1. 4.2
4. 9.83 [+0.38] Williams 8. 13.58 7. 12.65 7. 12.19 5. 9.3 2. 6.4
5. 10.46 [-0.54] Toyota 4. 9.36 4. 10.79 5. 10.11 3. 7.5 7. 11.8
6. 10.96 [+0.23] McLaren 2. 4.11 1. 2.88 3. 6.89 2. 6.6 5. 8.8
7. 11.17 [+0.44] Renault 5. 10.19 5. 10.82 1. 4.94 1. 4.8 4. 7.5
8. 11.54 [-0.69] BMW-Sauber 3. 7.42 3. 6.18 6. 10.81 8. 11.9 8. 12.9 *
9. 15.71 [-0.88] F India 10. 18.61 11. 20.82 10. 18.06 9. 16.9 9. 16.4 *
10. 16.21 [+0.03] T Rosso 7. 12.33 9. 16.21 9. 15.83 10. 17.5 10. 18.5 *

* Red Bull = Jaguar (2004), Brawn = Honda (06-08) / BAR (04-05), BMW-Sauber = Sauber
(04-05), Force India = Spyker (07) / Midland (06) / Jordan (04-05), Toro Rosso =
Minardi (04-05)


Team-mates Head-to-Head 2009 - after Spa-Francorchamps, Qualifying #12

Team        Driver-1          Driver-2    Posn.
===============================================
Renault Alonso 9-1 Piquet +65
Alonso 2-0 Grosjean +12
[11-1 +77]
Williams    Rosberg     10-2  Nakajima     +50
Toyota Trulli 10-2 Glock +37
Red Bull Vettel 10-2 Webber +30
Toro Rosso Buemi 7-2 Bourdais +14
Buemi 3-0 Alguersuari +14
[10-2 +28]
McLaren     Hamilton     8-4  Kovalainen    -4
F India     Fisichella   7-5  Sutil         -3
BMW-Sauber Kubica 7-5 Heidfeld +1
Brawn Button 7-5 Barrichello +1
Ferrari     Räikkönen    5-4  Massa         +4
Räikkönen 2-0 Badoer +29
[7-4 +33]

Notes: "Posn." shows the advantage in qualifying positions to date. A
positive number shows the driver on the left has the advantage and a
negative number the driver on the right.


2009 Grid Penalties

#  GP   Driver           Qual  Penalty (reason)
===========================================================================
01 AUS Timo Glock 6th pit lane start (rear wing flexing)
01 AUS Jarno Trulli 8th pit lane start (rear wing flexing)
01 AUS Lewis Hamilton 15th 5-place penalty (changed gearbox)
02 MAL  Sebastian Vettel  3rd  10-place penalty (caused accident in AUS)
02 MAL R Barrichello 4th 5-place penalty (changed gearbox)
03 CHN  Timo Glock       14th  5-place penalty (changed gearbox)
04 BRN  Adrian Sutil     16th  3-place penalty (blocked Webber)
06 MON  Lewis Hamilton   16th  5-place penalty (changed gearbox)
09 GER  Timo Glock       19th  3-place penalty (blocked Alonso)


Appearances in Each Qualifying Session

Q-1  Q-2  Q-3
=============================
S Vettel 12 12 12
J Button         12   12   11
R Barrichello 12 12 11
N Rosberg 12 12 11
K Räikkönen 12 11 11
M Webber 12 11 11
F Alonso         12   12    9
J Trulli         12   10    8
T Glock          12   10    6
F Massa 10 9 6* HUN (0 laps)
R Kubica 12 8 6
L Hamilton       12    9*   5   AUS (0 laps)
H Kovalainen     12   11    4
K Nakajima       12   10    3
N Heidfeld       12   10    1
N Piquet 10 6 1
A Sutil 12 5 1
S Buemi 12 4 1
G Fisichella 12 2 1
S Bourdais        9    2    0
S Grosjean 2 1 0
J Alguersauri 3 0 0
L Badoer 2 0 0

* Set no time in one or more sessions.


Best Qualifying Performances (Current Drivers)

Best in 2009     Best in  Best in   Best in   Best before 2006
Driver Posn.(#) GP(s) 2008 (#) 2007 (#) 2006 (#) Posn. (#) First - Last
=======================================================================================
J Button Pole (4) .... 9th (1) 6th (1) Pole (1) Pole (2) RSM 04 - CDN 05
S Vettel Pole (3) . . . Pole (1) 7th (1) --- ---
J Trulli Pole (1) BRN 2nd (1) 6th (1) 3rd (1) Pole (3) MON 04 - USA 05
M Webber Pole (1) GER 2nd (1) 5th (1) 2nd (1) 2nd (2) MAL 04 - ESP 05
F Alonso Pole (1) HUN 2nd (1) Pole (2) Pole (6) Pole (9) MAL 03 - CHN 05
L Hamilton Pole (1) EUR Pole (7) Pole (6) --- ---
G Fisichella Pole (1) BEL 12th (1) 4th (1) Pole (1) Pole (2) AUT 98 - AUS 05
R Barrichello  2nd  (3) . . .   9th  (1)  9th  (1)  3rd  (2)  Pole (13) BEL 94 - BRA 04
T Glock 2nd (1) BRN 5th (1) --- --- 16th (2) CDN 04 - CHN 04
K Räikkönen 2nd (1) MON Pole (2) Pole (3) Pole (3) Pole (8) Eur 03 - TUR 05
H Kovalainen 2nd (1) EUR Pole (1) 6th (2) --- ---
N Heidfeld 3rd (1) BEL 5th (4) 2nd (1) 3rd (1) Pole (1) Eur 05
R Kubica 4th (1) AUS Pole (1) 4th (1) 6th (1) ---
N Rosberg 4th (1) MAL 5th (2) 4th (1) 3rd (1) ---
F Massa 4th (1) ESP Pole (6) Pole (6) Pole (3) 4th (3) AUT 02 - BRA 04
K Nakajima 5th (1) GBR 10th (1) 19th (1) --- ---
A Sutil 7th (1) GER 16th (1) 19th (3) --- ---
S Buemi 10th (2) CHN/HUN --- --- --- ---
N Piquet 10th (1) GER 7th (1) --- --- ---
S Bourdais     14th (1) MON     4th  (1)  ---       ---       ---
R Grosjean 14th (1) EUR --- --- --- ---
J Alguersauri 17th (1) BEL --- --- --- ---
L Badoer 20th (2) EUR/BEL --- --- --- 12th (1) HUN 95


Personal Bests set at Spa-Francorchamps 2009

Pos.  Career            In 2009
===================================
Pole G Fisichella (4) G Fisichella
3rd N Heidfeld
14th R Grosjean R Grosjean
17th J Alguersauri J Alguersauri
20th L Badoer (2)


Most Pole Positions

1950-2002 (Top 25)                Since 2003 (Top 10)
========================= ========================
1 Ayrton Senna 65 1 Michael Schumacher 18 +
2 Michael Schumacher 50 + Fernando Alonso 18
3 Jim Clark 33 3 Kimi Räikkönen 16
Alain Prost 33 4 Felipe Massa 15
5 Nigel Mansell 32 5 Lewis Hamilton 14
6 Juan Manuel Fangio 29 6 Rubens Barrichello 7 +
7 Mika Häkkinen 26 Jenson Button 7
8 Niki Lauda 24 8 Ralf Schumacher 5 +
Nelson Piquet 24 9 Jarno Trulli 4
10 Damon Hill 20 Sebastian Vettel 4
11 Mario Andretti 18
René Arnoux 18
13 Jackie Stewart 17
14 Stirling Moss 16 + also achieved poles in other era
15 Alberto Ascari 14
Ronnie Peterson 14
James Hunt 14
18 Graham Hill 13
Jack Brabham 13
Jacky Ickx 13
Jacques Villeneuve 13
21 David Coulthard 12
Gerhard Berger 12
24 Jochen Rindt 10
Juan Pablo Montoya 10 +

Since 2003 we have had:

* Single lap qualifying (2003-05, except for AUS-MON 2005)
* Two single-lap sessions aggregated (AUS-MON 2005 only)
* Knockout, 3-period, race fuel (from EUR 2005)


The Recent Record of Pole Position Holders at Spa-Francorchamps

Year  Time      Driver         Chassis         Rslt  Winner          Grd
=========================================================================
1999 1'50.329 M Häkkinen McLaren MP4/14 2nd Coulthard 2nd
2000 1'50.646 M Häkkinen McLaren MP4/15 1st
2001 1'52.072 JP Montoya Williams FW23 DNF M Schumacher 3rd
----
2002 1'43.726 M Schumacher Ferrari F2002 1st
2003 Not held
----
2004 1'56.232 J Trulli Renault R24 9th Räikkönen 10th
2005 1'46.391 JP Montoya McLaren MP4/20 14th Räikkönen 2nd
2006 Not held
----
2007 1'45.994 K Räikkönen Ferrari F2007 1st
2008 1'47.338 L Hamilton McLaren MP4/23 3rd Massa 2nd
2009 1'46.308 G Fisichella F India VJM02 2nd Räikkönen 6th

---- Indicates changes in track length and/or layout.

There have been 24 Grands Prix at the modern Spa-Francorchamps,
seven have been won from pole position (last was Räikkönen in 2007),
four have been won from second (Häkkinen in 2000),
seven have been won from third (Massa in 2008).
Five have been won from a lower grid position – Mansell (1986/5th), Prost
(1987/6th), Räikkönen (2009/6th), Räikkönen (2004/10th) and M Schumacher (1995/16th).

Average grid position of winners = 3.292.

The old circuit hosted 18 GPs and the AGP of the winners was 3.500.

Note: 2005 was decided on “single lap” qualifying. Since 2007 the grid has been decided on a three-period
knockout system. The "pole time" is no longer necessarily the fastest time set during qualifying.
 

GeoffP

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Contributor
Excellent stats, aas usual!

With all this detail and knowledge, and location, have you ever worked at Williams?
 
frog-n-flymo said:
Excellent stats, aas usual!

With all this detail and knowledge, and location, have you ever worked at Williams?
No, it's just a hobby. I used to work at the Atomic Energy Research Establishment (AERE) at
Harwell. Apparently Ross Brawn went through the engineering apprentice school there. My
wife's late father may have been head of the school at that time, although he started to
suffer from heart problems around then, so may not have been 'in the office' while RB was
there.

I'm typing this about two miles from the Williams factory, which reminds me, a few years
ago, Williams helped to fund a roundabout outside the gate, to improve traffic access.
Once finished they installed the usual roadsigns which say "Williams F1 Roundabout".
As soon as those were installed some comedian climbed up and covered the word
roundabout with a home-made 'chicane'. They also installed some 100m braking point
boards along the road.
 

GeoffP

Thank you and good night
Contributor
I recently moved to about 7 miles further down the road from Wiliams and was amazed when I found myself driving past the factory recently, unfortunately I was confused and in traffic so didn't notice any "special" signs, but I did find myself on the look out for places to stop...
 
frog-n-flymo said:
I recently moved to about 7 miles further down the road from Wiliams and was amazed when I found myself driving past the factory recently, unfortunately I was confused and in traffic so didn't notice any "special" signs, but I did find myself on the look out for places to stop...
Oh they soon removed the offending signs. I've got some photos somewhere, how does
one post them here?
 

Brogan

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Brian_W_Lawrence said:
Oh they soon removed the offending signs. I've got some photos somewhere, how does one post them here?
You can either upload them to a service such as ImageShack, Flickr, etc. and link to the URL using the tags
Or, just click on "Upload File" below when composing the post and browse to the file location on your PC.
 
Brogan said:
Brian_W_Lawrence said:
Oh they soon removed the offending signs. I've got some photos somewhere, how does one post them here?
You can either upload them to a service such as ImageShack, Flickr, etc. and link to the URL using the tags.
Or, just click on "Upload File" below when composing the post and browse to the file location on your PC.[/quote]

Thanks Brogan. I could have figured it out, but I haven't got time at the moment. I'll try and
post them a bit later today.
 
Just trying to see if this works, apologies if they are huge!



Only about 60kb, so no probs.

This is what the unaltered sign at the other side was like.



And this was the braking point board, which had been knocked over by the time I
went to see it.



Those were taken in Feb. 2002.
 

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Brogan

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LOL

Nice one.

I like the fact that someone went to the effort of making signs just for a prank.
 
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