Grand Prix 2024 Canadian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

This weekend marks our second of five planned trips to the North American continent, & the final race outside Europe before end of September as F1 embarks on its 3 month European tour.
Canada is usually 1 of my favorite races, set in the beautiful location of Île Notre-Dame with its trees and beaches. Like most historic circuits such as Monaco, Spa, & Silverstone, it wasn't originally designed for motorsports. It was first built as a venue for Expo 67, the world's fair held in Montreal. After lying dormant for 9 years, Montreal hosted the Olympics & on back straight every year, you see where rowing took place , and 2 years later, F1 moved to this location, having deemed Mosport Park too dangerous. what you might not know is this place is a year round destination, with many tourist attractions & places of work scattered around the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve. You might have missed them or seen them without realizing what they are, especially if we follow the circuit order.

The circuit is typically open for 11 months each year, closing only for F1 construction, much like any normal national park. & It is frequently most utilized by cyclists.
  • To the right of the braking zone of turn 1 lies the family-favorite Jean Doré Beach, where ticket purchase is required prior to entry.
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  • At the exit of the turn 6 and 7 chicane, where Button achieved his famous victory in 2012, lie the offices of the Island & a venue called la toundra which is popular for weddings.
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  • As you enter the hairpin turn on the left, the Montreal Biosphere, constructed for Expo 67, comes into view.
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  • down the straight on the left as you drive lies the boating lake, which served as the venue for the rowing events during the 1976 Olympics & on the right. is the Casino de montreal, which is the largest casino in Canada

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  • on the start / finish straight underneath the grandstands are 8 beach volleyball courts
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    Is there a Championship battle brewing? Red Bull has now suffered consecutive race losses for the first time since the 2022 French GP. It was largely Verstappen's skill that prevented a third consecutive loss, as he managed to fend off Lando. The title battle has narrowed to 31 points, and the constructors' lead is just 24 points. Reflecting on history, the last time Red Bull faced consecutive losses LOL they bounced back to win the next 9races, with Verstappen Winning 8 of them. However, Verstappen has expressed dissatisfaction for the fourth consecutive race, citing concerns that the heavy use of kerbs will challenge the car's performance,

    Apparently, the only predictable thing about the weather is its unpredictability, especially when a day that encompasses all four seasons are forecasted. because today montreal is under a severe Thunderstorm warning but also temperatures in at around 23-26c
    Saturday - is expected to be dry
    Sunday - from 1pm there could be a thunderstorm. so could be 2011 dejavu

    here are the timings for the weekend & those in the uk have dulcet tones of Jacques Villenueve all weekend


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all credit to F1 for just getting on with it, as infuriatingly its too often it sanitised under safety car. until its nearly dry. not like in 90s & 00s. these are supposed to be 20 best drivers in the world. let them show it

who had magunessen going for lead
 
i fear russell so bothered by verstappen he forgot to search out the wet parts & he struggled on the old inters. he was a sitting duck for norris

& the luck was that was for norris in miami was against him today. but he was a rocket ship before that safety car. 15 seconds lead
 
brilliant race, if we get a better race this season. im looking forward to it, been a while since an F1 Race got my heartrate up. fair play to max, you have to appreciate what he did today. everyone else had their issue norris with the safety car, russell with his issues with kerbs, piastri tyre problems, hamilton on the wrong tyre at the end & verstappen kept his nose clean got his reward

i thought they should called off the battle between the 2 mercedes drivers for safety reasons & because he's cost me money LOL
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It was great to see teams relying instinct and risk rather than running the solution through a computer and all coming up with the same answer.

Albon's double overtake into the final corners was sublime.

Not only was it annoying that Verstappen won but his half arsed mind games of whinging about not being able to run on the kerbs then, one lap later setting the fastest lap of the race really pissed me off.
 
I wonder if Red Bull confirming Perez was,a good choice?🤔
I think so. They could have had Sainz or Ric or Tsunoda in the car. any of them would be better than Perez. That they signed Perez shows they are a one horse team by design. The question is not whether signing Perez was a mistake, but whether their strategy is a mistake. I suspect their strategy is dictated by Max.
 
I think so. They could have had Sainz or Ric or Tsunoda in the car. any of them would be better than Perez. That they signed Perez shows they are a one horse team by design. The question is not whether signing Perez was a mistake, but whether their strategy is a mistake. I suspect their strategy is dictated by Max.
As we speak
Perez has been given a grid drop for driving unsafe

As for DR, suddenly everyone is going cockahoop because he beat Yuki🤔in response to JVs brutal words

I've yet too the highlights but it feels like one that got away from Mclaren and Mercedes
 
Whilst Norris benefited from this in Miami, it felt as though the stewards dithered and delayed to release the safety car. It was obvious that a safety car would be necessary- yet they waited for over half a lap, by which time Norris had passed the pit lane entrance, but just in time for Verstappen and Russell…

Some might say that it’s obvious that Norris should have stopped, but there was a chance of a red flag, and the impact of a red flag is far more damaging.
 
Time for team strategists to have to factor in Logan Sergeant. Also Sergio Perez being told to bring his broken car back to the pits, so that there isn’t a safety car, seems to go against the spirit of racing. If Verstappen wasn’t leading he would have left the car there. One final point, I still think that the regulations going forward should ban the changing of tyres during a safety car period.
 
What makes mixed conditions racing so good in this day and age is the fact that it creates unpredictability for the teams.

On a normal, dry weekend at any track, the teams would have run everything through the simulator and come up with the best strategy. All ten teams have all of the same information and come up with exactly the same strategy within a lap or two of each other. It's like the scene in the early 80's film "War Games" where the computer plays noughts and crosses against itself and it always ends in stalemate.

In wet weekends though, the simulator is useless. Only a driver can tell the team when he thinks the track conditions are set for each tyre. The weather radar may see clouds but can't predict precisely when it will rain and for how long or how heavy. Teams and drivers have to think on their feet. It suddenly becomes unpredictable.

The problem is, and it's a huge problem, how do we get that unpredictability into a normal race weekend. Legislating conformity has obviously not worked. Teams now have access to far too much data.

I wish someone had an answer because we need more races like yesterday. (Even if Max won)
 
What makes mixed conditions racing so good in this day and age is the fact that it creates unpredictability for the teams.

On a normal, dry weekend at any track, the teams would have run everything through the simulator and come up with the best strategy. All ten teams have all of the same information and come up with exactly the same strategy within a lap or two of each other. It's like the scene in the early 80's film "War Games" where the computer plays noughts and crosses against itself and it always ends in stalemate.

In wet weekends though, the simulator is useless. Only a driver can tell the team when he thinks the track conditions are set for each tyre. The weather radar may see clouds but can't predict precisely when it will rain and for how long or how heavy. Teams and drivers have to think on their feet. It suddenly becomes unpredictable.

The problem is, and it's a huge problem, how do we get that unpredictability into a normal race weekend. Legislating conformity has obviously not worked. Teams now have access to far too much data.

I wish someone had an answer because we need more races like yesterday. (Even if Max won)
The issue is that the FIA has pursued this concept since the 2010 Canadian GP, and in seeking unpredictability, we've ended up with Pirelli tyres that have arguably deteriorated the racing. Instead of drivers going at 100% with the risk of 'hitting the cliff,' they become overly cautious, effectively babysitting the tyres at 50%.

for me mixed conditions were great but i think we have the same race in the dry & i think it just comes down to that for the 1st time in i dont know how many years. we had 3 teams neck & neck for the win
 
I'm going to admit something, I'm starting to warm to Max. He seems to have matured now that he's won races and titles and appears to be more accepting when things go wrong.
 
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