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Ted Kravitz:
Pirelli comes out swinging:
Ted Kravitz:
Pirelli comes out swinging:
Mercedes and Ferrari in 'secret' Pirelli tyre tests
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^ And the case against Flav is why they evidently don't come under the FIAs jurisdiction. I have to say the more this goes on the more its the FIA that are coming out looking like a complete shambles.
I have to say as well, if its true that Ferrari tested at Barcelona and tested new parts then the FIAs decision not to send them to the independent tribunal (which after all is the only non-independent part of the process (if we're to believe that the tribunal is independent) ) looks absolutely stupid/borderline corrupt.
I have to say as well, if its true that Ferrari tested at Barcelona and tested new parts then the FIAs decision not to send them to the independent tribunal (which after all is the only non-independent part of the process (if we're to believe that the tribunal is independent) ) looks absolutely stupid/borderline corrupt.
If I were Whitmarsh I'd be waiting outside the tribunal with an open cheque book and a job offer for Ross...
Mephistopheles: way ahead of you...
http://cliptheapex.com/threads/the-paper-chain.3781/page-13#post-204249
http://cliptheapex.com/threads/the-paper-chain.3781/page-13#post-204249
Some interesting details have emerged from today.
Ferrari carried out a Pirelli test last year with Felipe Massa driving.
That was completely unknown until today.
As we now know, they also carried out one this year.
It was previously believed to have been at Bahrain, but it was in fact at Spain, one week before the GP.
They did use an older car but tested some parts apparently.
If it was just a tyre test for Pirelli, what were they doing testing parts?
Ferrari carried out a Pirelli test last year with Felipe Massa driving.
That was completely unknown until today.
As we now know, they also carried out one this year.
It was previously believed to have been at Bahrain, but it was in fact at Spain, one week before the GP.
They did use an older car but tested some parts apparently.
If it was just a tyre test for Pirelli, what were they doing testing parts?
I'm still baffled about how an F1 test can happen without a single mention in the media, it only takes one person in the vicinity of, or at, the track to take a picture and post something on Facebook/Twitter/etc. A test last year that we knew nothing about until today?!
last years test didn't seem to help Massa much did it?
Think both teams are bang to rights if you ask me. F1 rules have always been a bit like rulers they are fun to bend but eventually someone takes it to far and the whole thing snaps but as they are easily replaceable no one ever learns from it.
If they really wanted to stop all this regs bending then they'd kick Ferrari, Merc and Red Bull (not sure what Red Bull have done yet but I'm oretty sure they'll have done something) for the rest of the season. Not only will it teach them a lesson in rules it'll cost them a lot of money and teach them that F1 can live without them when the viewing figures sky rocket as we suddenly have a close battle at the front.
Won't happen though. Ferrari will get away scott free and Merc will get a fine on the condition Ross Brawn gets the sack.
Think both teams are bang to rights if you ask me. F1 rules have always been a bit like rulers they are fun to bend but eventually someone takes it to far and the whole thing snaps but as they are easily replaceable no one ever learns from it.
If they really wanted to stop all this regs bending then they'd kick Ferrari, Merc and Red Bull (not sure what Red Bull have done yet but I'm oretty sure they'll have done something) for the rest of the season. Not only will it teach them a lesson in rules it'll cost them a lot of money and teach them that F1 can live without them when the viewing figures sky rocket as we suddenly have a close battle at the front.
Won't happen though. Ferrari will get away scott free and Merc will get a fine on the condition Ross Brawn gets the sack.
All is blind to those who don't see or aren't looking!.
I'm in thrall of the outcome because, whatever it is, it will still only be less than half the story. They are all conniving, competitive bastards who hide behind useless regulations and lawyers when 'caught in the headlights'.
And this fiasco is meant to show transparency!
I'm in thrall of the outcome because, whatever it is, it will still only be less than half the story. They are all conniving, competitive bastards who hide behind useless regulations and lawyers when 'caught in the headlights'.
And this fiasco is meant to show transparency!
The claim that Rosberg and Hamilton used plain helmets to "protect them from fans" just proves how much crap is being spouted to try and justify it.
A closed, secret test session which no-one knew about, yet the drivers had to be protected from fans?
Would that be the fans which knew nothing about it, nor were present at the circuit?
And even if they had been they wouldn't have been allowed in as the gates were locked and guarded?
A closed, secret test session which no-one knew about, yet the drivers had to be protected from fans?
Would that be the fans which knew nothing about it, nor were present at the circuit?
And even if they had been they wouldn't have been allowed in as the gates were locked and guarded?
Has either driver made a comment? Being issued the 'plain helmet' order must have rang some alarm bells that what they were doing wasn't strictly legal.
Lewis got very upset when Mclaren asked him to lie. This seems a very similar situation.
Lewis got very upset when Mclaren asked him to lie. This seems a very similar situation.
Lewis must be loving that new freedom Merc has given him 
Poor old Lewis does always seem to have a great nack of being in the middle of a scandal unintentionally.
Poor old Lewis does always seem to have a great nack of being in the middle of a scandal unintentionally.
The Artist.....
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It was reasonably common knowledge (well I knew) that the Ferrari test was at Barcelona.... - and I'm not particularly privvy....
Yeah, the black helmet thing is the funniest aspect of the whole saga for me:
Bull and may I add Shit !!!
In that case, you would expect Lewis or Nico to wear black crash helmets doing street runs, at the Goodwood festival of speed, doing straight line tests on an air field, in fact, just about anywhere other than a full race weekend or an authorised testing session.
Bull and may I add Shit !!!
In that case, you would expect Lewis or Nico to wear black crash helmets doing street runs, at the Goodwood festival of speed, doing straight line tests on an air field, in fact, just about anywhere other than a full race weekend or an authorised testing session.
Security reasons? Surely they are more prominant when he's out of the car so there logic shoukd have been they can wear their helmets in tge car but have to haveva fake nose and mostache when in the garage.
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