Head To Head Jenson Button vs Lewis Hamilton
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The Artist.....
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I was going to post the same - but actually, having watched the replay, i'm not sure there was any contact! (See 6:30 in in the highlights http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18228584 )
Kovalainen was driving a very wide Caterham....
The Artist.....
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Brogan
Could this be the incident which caused the accident damage?
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/13296976
(The tv edit was appaulling once again this weekend - many incidents were never really captured!) - Kovi really did squeeze JB quite a bit there!
Could this be the incident which caused the accident damage?
http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/13296976
(The tv edit was appaulling once again this weekend - many incidents were never really captured!) - Kovi really did squeeze JB quite a bit there!
Not sure it made much difference. He was so far back the cameras could hardly see him. I heard the retirment was a puncture following his spin, and kovi got damaged after a tangle with Perez.
No one can deny the poor form and poor showing for the last few races.
No one can deny the poor form and poor showing for the last few races.
Cookinflatsix
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He crashed into Kovi at least twice trying to pass at Monaco, so in 6 races he has crashed three times
I think riskitall is correct, Jenson got a real beasting on Sunday, in fact he was monstered by Lewis all weekend and leaves no doubt about which one is truly top class and which is merely capable given a good car
I think riskitall is correct, Jenson got a real beasting on Sunday, in fact he was monstered by Lewis all weekend and leaves no doubt about which one is truly top class and which is merely capable given a good car
If we took last year's Grand Prix at the same circuit, Cookinflatsix, we would come up with the opposite conclusion, but hyperbole and cherry-picking evidence are a forté of your comments on this forum.
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
Not strictly true. Whilst it is true that LH was ahead in all of the qualifying sessions, JB was ahead in FP2 and FP3.
I do, however, think it is a little harsh to state that Button hit Kovi 2ce... Given that one of those occasions, Kovi squeezed him into the barriers, and the other, it's inconclusive if there was actually any contact! Certainly Perez showed how difficult Kovi was making it for a faster car to get past him!
However, that's not to try and defend JB's race and qualifying - he was compromised by Q2 - and that meant he was chasing to catch up all weekend!
Jenson was absolutly rubbish this weekend. He looked like he was driving around in the middle of the track. I didn't see him get close to the wall round Casino Square on any occasion. There were very few drivers that looked less commited than him all the way up and down the field.
RickD
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Where exactly were these two times? Please elaborate..
Jenson is doing a Massa at the moment and i cannot recall Lewis descending into this level of mediocrity last year. Whitmarsh won't play on his insecurities though will he, like he when Hamilton was going through that turbulent period las season. Maybe Jenson is getting beaten by his team mate and he's finding it hard to take.
Hamilton was ahead of Button for 5 of the first 6 races in 2011 so I doubt it's that.
Well Whitmarsh likes to assert that the first driver you want to beat is your team mate so surely Jenson must be feeling under pressure now? Not that I believe this is the case and I think Hamilton is the least of his problems right now. What is clear is that MW's sentiments were inappropriate (no surprise Hamilton later dismissed them as "rubbish") but he won't repeat them now for obvious reasons.
*Edited for clarity
*Edited for clarity
Cookinflatsix
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No prizes handed out for Free practice, quali is where the big boys get counted
Ok hyperbole and cherry picking aside lets say Jenson made no contact, instead of saying jenson crashed lets say Jenson had 2 races (without a single mechanical or team problem) where he could not score a point, I reckon Jenson would rather be thought of as having crashed out
It would be foolish to compare any Lewis' performance even Monaco 2011 to this debacle
Jenson had no answers whatsoever for this race and came absolutely last
He is better than this and will shine again, it's all a confidence game, but he ain't anywhere close to Lewis or even Vettel in being able to press right foot to floor despite horrible conditions, adverse wind, rain, understeer, oversteer, inbalance, missing parts, unpredictable tyres
etc etc
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