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Andrea_Moda_Rules
Podium Finisher
In the Race? not sure, only precedent i have Is 125cc race (infact it was 0.001 but due to margin of error it was counted as a "dead heat") It went to photo finish, like in horse racing, and if a winner cannot be determined then. it goes to the guy with the fastest lap.
Wheather thats counts in F1 i do not know (cannot find it in the FIA rules hand book)
Fenderman
Rooters Reporter
Good question, zombieman. I believe so. The DRS is enabled via a signal transmitted from race control to a sensor in the car controlling the DRS. Once the system is enabled the driver activates it and it is only disengaged on the next application of the brakes. There is nothing in the technical regulations to forbid the use of the DRS in the scenario that you describe. In theory the signal to enable the system could be countermanded from race control but I'm not sure it's set up to do that.
Consider the scenario in which a driver is about to be passed in a battle for position. When there are no other cars in play he cannot activate his DRS to defend the attack, yet if he is within a second of a back marker his DRS will be enabled. On reaching the activation line he can deploy the DRS to lap the backmarker and in the process use the DRS in a defensive way to hold off his attacker. However, this is an unintended consequence of implementing the DRS as an overtaking aid for drivers and, in theory, not in the spirit of the rules. Since the system is enabled by electronic sensors, not by Charlie Whiting or other human intervention, they can't actually stop drivers using it to lap people.
I suspect that the same difficulty would apply to the other situation as well although I stand to be corrected if anyone has a better take on it.
Edit: Slow typing again .. Sly and Josh get in there before me! I'll leave it in anyway.
Consider the scenario in which a driver is about to be passed in a battle for position. When there are no other cars in play he cannot activate his DRS to defend the attack, yet if he is within a second of a back marker his DRS will be enabled. On reaching the activation line he can deploy the DRS to lap the backmarker and in the process use the DRS in a defensive way to hold off his attacker. However, this is an unintended consequence of implementing the DRS as an overtaking aid for drivers and, in theory, not in the spirit of the rules. Since the system is enabled by electronic sensors, not by Charlie Whiting or other human intervention, they can't actually stop drivers using it to lap people.
I suspect that the same difficulty would apply to the other situation as well although I stand to be corrected if anyone has a better take on it.
Edit: Slow typing again .. Sly and Josh get in there before me! I'll leave it in anyway.
Fenderman
Rooters Reporter
Yeah, but maybe I keep going over the top! You and Josh covered it the short way. I suppose I could just have said "Yes" but I just can't help myself!Nice, thorough descriptive post!
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
Ah, this was a case of in 1997 there already being a German GP (At the Hockenheimring), a European GP (At Jerez) - and the Jerez promoters owned the title - and despite the fact that the event wasn't held in 1998, they refused the Nurburgring the right to to use the European GP title.....
Still, it could be worse - they could have called it the Swiss GP - or held the San Marino GP in Italy!
Fenderman
Rooters Reporter
Sorry, but not quite. Wiki has a very thorough history of the European GP from its early incarnation in 1923 through to the modern era. I was tempted to put a smart-arse hat on but I'm taking it off to whoever contributed the Wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Grand_Prix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Grand_Prix
When was the first post-race penalty handed out and why?
In the 1894 Paris-Rouen Trial the victory was given to second place driver as the leader had an on-board mechanic with him.
Fenderman
Rooters Reporter
Sorry. Okay (probably) regarding the event, but in fact well into the 1920's (and for some events much later) it was a requirement to have an on-board mechanic. Comte Albert de Dion, having completed the race in 6hrs 48m, was disqualified because he was not accompanied by a mechanic. The victory was handed to Albert Lemaître who completed the race in 6hrs 51m.
Jos the Boss
Champion Elect
What would happen if a race was a dead heat?
I remember this question was asked a few days or a week ago...but got no answer.
Maybe it's one of those questions that no one knows the answer to!
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