Grand Prix 2023 Qatar Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Ill start this with a question. what do Juan Manuel Fangio, Jack Brabham, Keke Rosberg & Nelson Piquet. all have in common

They've all been crowned as the F1 champion on a Saturday
Fangio 1955
Brabham 1959
Piquet 1981 & 83
K Rosberg 1982

As we all know Its Qatar this weekend, a circuit that is actually only 6 months younger than Bahrain as it was opened in September 2004, but until 2021 it was mostly used for Moto GP & World Superbikes. interesting Fact that at the time, the lighting of the Losail Circuit was the largest permanent sporting venue lighting project in the world until Yas Marina was built,,

Qatar like imola was just supposed to be used as a 1 off fill in for the covid pandemic postponements, as was the need for short notice replacements to boost the calendar length, but it has found a way to become a permanent addition & signed a 10 yr deal starting in 2023 almost straight after the completion of 2021 race, to increase the present in the middle east, with Bahrain, Saudi & Abu Dhabi

It seems very strange that we are incredibly only just coming into the 2nd half of the 6 sprint races this season despite being over 3/4 of the way through the season & likely will have a champion officially crowned on Saturday, unless Qatar has things in common with Singapore. i say crowning because he'd won this when he broke Perez sprit in Miami. as this weekend is the start of 3 sprint weekends in the next 4 races with Circuit of the Americas & Interlagos upcoming.

We can only hope we get a better 2024 because its funny that we will likely get an anti climatic crowning in 1 of the dullest F1 season probably since 2004 with Michael Schumacher, when Ferrari won 15 of the 18 races, but that isn't red bull fault Adrian Newey being the genius he is, is the only person who got these rules correct. but we can only hope for a better 2024 (although it cant get worse) but i feel that things will be more competitive either organically or manufactured to boost viewing figures & interest

last but not least what does Verstappen require to be officially crowned as world champion. really only 3pts & 2pts if he perez doesnt get fastest lap
Verstappen 6th in sprint, nothing else matters
Perez 2nd - Verstappen 7th
Perez 3rd - Verstappen 8th
Perez 4th - Verstappen Champion

If in unlikely scenario Perez wins the sprint & verstappen retires or finishes outside the top 8. for the race
Perez 1st + fastest lap - Verstappen 8th
Perez 1st - Verstappen 9th
Perez 2nd - Verstappen Champion
 
perez is innocent unlike japan. but like japan impatience costed him again. why did he put his car in that situation. what did he think was going to happen being on the outside of 2 cars already fighting
 
So Leclerc has been penalised 5 seconds for multiple track limits violations ( along with Lance Stroll). He now drops to 12th place in the sprint.

I hate to think what the race tomorrow will be like!
 
What happened? aside from Max winning his 2nd WDC?
i forgot with all the other stuff & had leave quickly post sprint for mates leaving do.

fantastic to see piastri win a race, even if it just a "sprint". its give optimistum that maybe we have fight in 2024 & thoughts with alpine & Otmar Szafnauer who were blind to his talent. losing alonso & Piastri on the same say is up there in the incompetence stakes. everyone could tell he was going to be special. by the company he shared of Hamilton, Hulkenberg, Leclerc & Russell of winning F3 & F2 in consecutive years as rookies
 
No he’s not, he shouldn’t be that far down the grid in that car.
i couldnt agree more. ill give verstappen this isnt my cup of tea, due to his questionable on track morals, but perez is proving that just because you got a great car it no guarantee of success bit like bottas & verstappen in 2020. 1 romping away with the title & while the other is in a fight for 2nd place

perez is falling apart. his qualifying is all over the place & his race craft has now deserted him
 
Perez well suddenly 2nd place is under real threat now

As for the tyres I think4 stops could be on as the softs did not last to give you performance over the mediums
 
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Something that might interest people notice the gravel traps are really punishing on this track if people go off line

What a difference that makes to a race
 
I am puzzled by Norris' attitude this week he seems to be pulling no punches and beating himself up too much

Less said about Stroll ... one word "d!ck"
 
Something that might interest people notice the gravel traps are really punishing on this track if people go off line

What a difference that makes to a race
And it should be also noted that this track originally hosted Moto GP before F1 ever got near it which puts to bed the utter bollocks myth that Motorbike circuits can't have gravel traps and that's what's dictated F1 circuit design.

F1 circuits were designed without gravel traps specifically to prevent retirements and therefore lose star names and sponsorship views from races.
 
A cynical person might say, it's a convenient way of trying to create a different race winner and keeping punters watching the main event, now that the championship is over. ;):whistle:

But I'm not that cynical.......pfffft
 
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