Grand Prix 2011 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

It's a long summer and the key discussions aren't about the F1.

As we are in the middle of the summer break, the SKY/BBC deal continues to take precedence over any on track action we saw at Hungary, which is a shame as we saw a cracker of a race where Jenson Button eventually won his second race of the season ahead of Sebastian Vettel who extended his lead at the top of the championship yet again and surely it takes a miracle for anyone to overtake him now with less than half the races to go.

However with Belgium coming closer on the calender, it seems as if Red Bull has lost the dominance it held over the first half of the season with McLaren appearing to have the best all round package with 4 wins now this year with 2 for Button and 2 for Hamilton. Ferrari aren't far behind and are perhaps the best team in warm conditions but that remains to be seen after a series of damp and cold races. However it would still be a foolish person to bet against Red Bull going into the Belgian Grand Prix where the fast sweeping corners and technical hairpins will no doubt play to their advantage.

Spa Francorchamps is regarded (quite rightly) as the best driver circuit on the calendar with the famous circuit having many variations from its original form to the current version which was last changed in 2006 to incorporate the new pit area and final chicane, the final chicane wasn't popular as both fans and drivers miss the challenging bus stop chicane and the 'new' pit lane which can cause problems.

The grand prix has been famous for it's unpredictable weather with violent storms and half the track being dry and the other wet at the same time and completely random showers, the big example was 2008 where a late shower caught out the entire field and cost Kimi Raikkonen (and eventually Hamilton) the win. In 1998 torrential rain caused one of the worst starts in F1 history where half the field was wiped out on turn 1, eventually (after a restart) Damon Hill won for Jordan in a 1-2 with Ralf Schumacher second, Michael Schumacher famously nearly started a fight with David Coulthard after crashing into him trying to lap him.

Michael Schumacher has an impressive record at this track, winning his first race at the track in 1992 and taking several wins at the track with his last coming in 2002 where he took his seventh world championship. However at the moment it is unlikely that he will add to his list of wins with the Mercedes well off the pace of the leading trio of Ferrari, Mclaren and Red Bull.

Mercedes might find themselves behind Force India at the race as the track suits them down to a tee, in 2009 Fisichella took a surprise pole position and then took second place just finishing behind Raikkonen in the Ferrari (who always seemed to win at Spa when he was driving there)
Sutil and Di Resta have shown impressive pace recently, with both achieving season bests at the last few races and are closing the gap to the flagging Renault team who have really lost performance since the start of the season with Heidfeld and Petrov dissapointing.

On a personal level I am really looking forward to this race as I have weekend tickets and will be at Pouhon all weekend to bring you the best coverage from the track, (better than these Sky lot anyway)

For Galahad's excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
Belgian Grand Prix organisers have modified their circuit ahead of this weekend's race with the Rivage hairpin being widened on the grounds of safety. They have also replaced the corner's gravel trap with an asphalt run-off area.

Ok I'm all for widening the hairpin for safety, but replacing the gravel trap, come on this is rivage hairpin we are talking about, it's a slow enough corner surely. Discuss
 
Which corner is Rivage? I keep thinking about turn one but it can't be that as it's been a tarmac run off as long as I can remember. Is it the long downhill chicane after the right/left/right at the top of the hill from Eau Rouge?
 
Wooo. this time tomorrow I will be stepping off of the first class carriage of the Eurostar and jumping into a taxi to my hotel in Brussells. I will drink some Belgian beer and then be transfered to the track the next morning at 8:30 am by mini-bus where I shall purchase a McLaren Jacket and umbrella and then watch qualifying from the stands at arguably the best F1 track on the calendar. Woooooo hooooooo!!!!!
 
Which corner is Rivage? I keep thinking about turn one but it can't be that as it's been a tarmac run off as long as I can remember. Is it the long downhill chicane after the right/left/right at the top of the hill from Eau Rouge?

The long downhill hairpin after the Les Combes/Malmedy chicane, where Hamilton went off last year.
Seems to be referred to as Bruxelles on a lot of maps.
 
The old Rivage Gravel Trap always used to magnetically attract cars from other formulae - GP3, WSR, GP2, GT cars etc. Given that F1 is only here once a year, and it's used for numerous race weekends the rest of the year, I suspect that's why it's been changed. The fact that it's being reported now is purely incidental.
 
Wooo. this time tomorrow I will be stepping off of the first class carriage of the Eurostar and jumping into a taxi to my hotel in Brussells. I will drink some Belgian beer and then be transfered to the track the next morning at 8:30 am by mini-bus where I shall purchase a McLaren Jacket and umbrella and then watch qualifying from the stands at arguably the best F1 track on the calendar. Woooooo hooooooo!!!!!
Very envious!!!!!
 
Without that gravel trap at Rivage last year I am pretty sure Lewis wouldn't have got out of it without plucking a wheel off.
Personally I doubt that, he locked up the wheel at rivage, not a complete lack of grip, he would have been able to turn out had he been able to drive on the run-off
 
Personally I doubt that, he locked up the wheel at rivage, not a complete lack of grip, he would have been able to turn out had he been able to drive on the run-off

He touched the barrier with his left front wheel and just about got away with it, but had it not been gravel he would have been able to slow down.
 
Phew. That was a heart-stopper! Can't believe you actually made me relive that.

When Lewis started to go a little wide, the only thing that I could scream was, no no no no no no no no no, and then.............oooooooh THANK GOD!

At the time visions of China 07, was dancing in my head.
 
Practice one - 0900-1030; Practice two - 1300-1430 (BBC Times on the Red Button)

I will be up for FP1 and around for FP2. Anyone else?
 
For anyobody (Jos) who's interested, here is a weather radar prediction: (http://www.wunderground.com/modelmaps/maps.asp?model=GFS&domain=TA) for Sunday over Europe at 13:00 British time (14:00 Belgian time). The key is at the bottom of the map, measured in inches. (1 inch = 25.4 mm).

Sun Aug 28 2011 13:00:00 GMT+0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

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