Pre-Season 2017 Testing, Car Launches & Chat

[Incubus]

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Ferrari remember did not realise how outdated their windtunnel was due to the Schumacher years of relentless track testing

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And how much exactly do you know about the technical details of Ferrari's windtunnel, then or now?

And isn't it a tad nonsnsical to suggest Ferrari "didn't know how outdated their windtunnel was during the days of unlimited testing"? (at a time where they could instantly verify whether the data correlated or not)

 

[FB]

I do recall Ferrari having to use the Toyota wind tunnel at one point as they had "got the calibration wrong" on their own. This was back in 2011 though. Ferrari using Toyota's windtunnel - F1 - Autosport

 

[vintly]

I remember that. Maybe they've been using inches instead of centimetres again this year

I wouldn't be surprised if certain people who have the ear of other certain people sort of get wind (pardon the pun) of certain details from testing and sort of accidentally on purpose over a few Cinzanos pass information on to others. How it happens, if it happens, is irrelevant coz we'll never really know.

If it is true that Ferrari are once again lacking pace, then I'm interested to hear what they have to say pre-season. Given that in recent years they've looked foolish by saying that anything other than wins would be a failure, or words to that effect, then I don't expect them to say very much at all. Which would be prudent, regardless of testing performance. I hope though, that they come out all guns blazing predicting instant success, and fail. HAHAHAHA I'm very eeeevil.

 

[Il_leone]

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Which was what I was gonna say - only 50% of the windtunnel data was correlating with the track performance.. they suddenly realise how out of date their windtunnel was

Years of relying unlimited testing on track with 2 test drivers masked these problems

Maybe we will see the impact of firing James Allinson now

Incubus

Its not that Ferrari don;t know but they are directionless - spaghetti culture answering to various chiefs is potentially confusing the issue or the rate of development

The last thing Arrivabene needs to hear or publish is the team will not be on the pace after last season's disappointment

 

[teabagyokel]

Toyota had done one by the time Ferrari were allowed to use their windtunnel. Turns out that Ferrari simply knew how to fill in this gap properly:

Driver #1: ___________ Schumacher.

 

[Rutherford]

The last thing Arrivabene needs to hear or publish is the team will not be on the pace after last season's disappointment

They're in the same state as their country, a complete and utter mess.

 

[FB]

FW40 breaks cover - Williams shows first 2017 F1 car

 

[gethinceri]

I like, except for the dorsal fin.

 

[Road of Bones]

I like the delta front wing, the stealth rear wing, and yes - the dorsal fin too!

 

[Bill Boddy]

Are there any photos where the car is visible?

 

[vintly]

 

[Titch]

I like that. I certainly wouldn't mind parking it on my drive.

On closer inspection, where does the driver sit.?

 

[Olivier]

vintly that's the same picture, isnt it? (With a lot more brightness)

 

[Incubus]

The dorsal fin makes it look like the Audi, Porache and Toyata LMP1's.

 

[Greenlantern101]

The real car launch is the 25th.

Looks good though. The low rear wing and the delta front wing look much nicer. And no phallic noses either.

So that's just haas keeping quiet.

 

[Bill Boddy]

To go or not to go, that is the question.

I had decided to go, then I looked up the method of getting a ticket; it seems that they are 18 Euros per day plus another 2 Euros per day for using the facilities to buy a ticket. Is it really worth going?

 

[Titch]

Where ?

 

[cousinDave]

Are there any photos where the car is visible?

They spent so much on developing it, they didn't have any money left over for a light bulb.

 

[FB]

I think it's just a 3D rendering rather than the actual car. Quite difficult to tell these days.

 

[vintly]

vintly that's the same picture, isnt it? (With a lot more brightness)

Yes just bunged the levels up so you can see it a bit more. It's definitely a render, not a photo.