Pre-Season 2018-2019 Winter testing and car launches

Ruslan

Podium Finisher
karun has come on twitter has rejigged his tyre/fuel estimations. appartantly he missed a lap grosjean did on the final day on the C3 tyre
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So by this calculation (and it is an imprecise calculation based upon a set of assumptions).....Haas is the second fastest car in the field. Does anyone actually believe this? If not....then must we conclude that the rest of the calculation is incorrect?
 

BradMan

Rookie
So by this calculation (and it is an imprecise calculation based upon a set of assumptions).....Haas is the second fastest car in the field. Does anyone actually believe this? If not....then must we conclude that the rest of the calculation is incorrect?
Add to this...
What do we make of this? Has Newey pushed the limits too far, once again, seems so based on this report. Tight packaging... Aggressive shape. They sound so assuring in fixing the problems. Drivers more muted

Honda to revise packaging - Pitpass.com
 
So by this calculation (and it is an imprecise calculation based upon a set of assumptions).....Haas is the second fastest car in the field. Does anyone actually believe this? If not....then must we conclude that the rest of the calculation is incorrect?

as you said the calculation is based on a set of assumptions, if one of the assumptions proves incorrect then the calculation turns out to be incorrect. IMHO no one showed their real potential, their simulators are so advanced that they can use the simulators to find out how quick they are and they use the track time just to test some parts (I would assume everything that is affected by temperature, friction, and a few other things)
 

Izumi

Banned
Tuesday 5 March at 08:58 : Mar.5 (GMM) The FIA has clamped down in various 'grey areas' of the engine regulations ahead of 2019.
One unnamed engineer told Auto Motor und Sport: "We have received more technical directives for the engine than ever before."
It follows a period of intense speculation about the so-called grey areas of loopholes in the highly complex power unit regulations.
"We have become stricter in all areas where the engine manufacturers could theoretically overstep the mark," confirmed FIA race director Charlie Whiting.

Why is FiA doing this? It seems like as soon as a season starts, FiA begins (again) to "correct" grey areas, which basically is nothing more then resolving deficiencies of their own, work. Why now, instead end of last year? How does this late pre-race meddling will affect individual teams,
 
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F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
So by this calculation (and it is an imprecise calculation based upon a set of assumptions).....Haas is the second fastest car in the field. Does anyone actually believe this? If not....then must we conclude that the rest of the calculation is incorrect?

i highly doubt they would be 2nd best car. but who knows & i thought as he had a amendment i post it too
 

Izumi

Banned
as you said the calculation is based on a set of assumptions, if one of the assumptions proves incorrect then the calculation turns out to be incorrect. IMHO no one showed their real potential, their simulators are so advanced that they can use the simulators to find out how quick they are and they use the track time just to test some parts (I would assume everything that is affected by temperature, friction, and a few other things)
Your credentials Publius actually suggest I should listen to you, although I am surprised (bold) reading this. I've always thought that data acquisition at the track has been used for correlation with data collected on dyno and elsewhere. How else you discover errors in the system?
 

vintly

Mostly bacon
Contributor
I would have thought that a cold circuit is ok for testing the durability of various part of the car, including the driver to an extent, but the finer detail of exactly who is faster than who on a hotter circuit is another matter. We can assume some of this but to say who has the second fastest car etc is pure guesswork at this stage.
 

Angel

Race Winner
Contributor
I suppose we're all guesstimating what will happen. No one will be sure until qualifying in Australia, that is when we'll get a true first sign on who is where and what we can expect. That isn't far away now :D
 

Izumi

Banned
I would have thought that a cold circuit is ok for testing the durability of various part of the car, including the driver to an extent, but the finer detail of exactly who is faster than who on a hotter circuit is another matter. We can assume some of this but to say who has the second fastest car etc is pure guesswork at this stage.
I am actually not certain who has best car. I don't believe in fixation with "fastest" car. Vettel often won a race, yet he was down in 5th place in speed trap. I think being stable in turns when a driver steps on it at the exit is far more important. In era when cars are fraction of a second apart, processing circuit in turns can give a driver gain or loss over others. Sure, you want agile car, but being fastest (in speed trap)? How that translates into wining races?
 
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Izumi

Banned
Izumi I didn’t mention anything about speed traps or winning races so I don’t know what you’re on about.
Oh OK, you mentioned speed of a car, and I thought you were talking about speed as in speed trap, whereas I usually think about different attributes.
 

vintly

Mostly bacon
Contributor
Izumi i didn’t mention the speed of a car either. Please be careful when reiterating any points I might make. I try to choose my words carefully so would greatly appreciate it if you did too.
 
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BradMan

Rookie
Just saw this..
I've forgotten how intense driving a f1 car really is, with all dem buttons. So many things to remember and take care off, including fiddling with buttons, adjusting brake balance etc. He even let go of the steering wheel to feel the car...

I'll have headaches after a few laps...

Formula 1 on Twitter
 

Izumi

Banned
Just saw this..
I've forgotten how intense driving a f1 car really is, with all dem buttons. So many things to remember and take care off, including fiddling with buttons, adjusting brake balance etc. He even let go of the steering wheel to feel the car...

I'll have headaches after a few laps...

Formula 1 on Twitter
Under normal conditions pilots of A380 have less to do than Kimi had on that one lap. Car is constantly vibrating, and it is wonderful how with his thick gloves he can find those small knobs on his control panel.
 
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