Pre-Season 2012 Testing: Barcelona

[tranquility2k9]

Button / McLaren definitely seem to be refueling their car in-between long runs. I'm pretty sure this morning they did 2 single lap runs on 2 different sets of hard tyres. Then following that fueled the car up and did 2 long runs consisting of 11 - 12 laps. The times were so similar that it suggests he refueled for the second run back to the same fuel level as the first run. Following this, he then has done two 13 lap runs on soft tyres. I imagine again, from the similar times he has been refueled in-between. This would make perfect sense as I assume they would want to back-to-back any setup changes and the best way to do this is to have the same amount of fuel and same tyre compound with the same number of laps done on it. Whereas today it is quite obvious, lots of people have suggested both Button and Hamilton were also refueled at some points during their supposed "race simulations" - both were taken back into the garage a couple of times whereas Vettel and Webber were not during theirs. I think this probably explains some of the time difference as I doubt they are really 1 - 1.5 seconds behind Red Bull as BBC's Andrew Benson suggests from his "number crunching".

 

[downforce]

Havn't ;otus said the problem is with the front suspension

 

[tranquility2k9]

Update: McLaren are now officially the only team to complete 100+ laps on all days of testing at Barcelona. No other team can as McLaren were only team with 2012 car to do 100+ laps on day 1.

Massive contrast to last year. It's almost a little strange how McLaren seem as reliable as Ferrari last year and Ferrari as unreliable as McLaren were. Lets see who comes out on top at Melbourne, will be interesting!

 

[sportsman]

Havn't ;otus said the problem is with the front suspension

Lotus have not stated any reasons themselves.
Everyman and his dog has.None of which are confirmed by Lotus.

 

[RasputinLives]

Doesn't it worry you that they haven't stated what it is?

 

[Road of Bones]

Doesn't it worry you that they haven't stated what it is?

Why would they? It would be pretty foolish of them to show ominous speed and then openly admit to all their rivals exactly what their chassis shortcomings really are. It's bad enough for Lotus that they've had to pack up and come home from the test early, without airing all the skidmarks on their laundry as well, don't you think?

 

[RasputinLives]

Yeah but also wouldn't all this debate about how bad it be just go away if they came out and said "yeah the exhaust pipe was cracked and we're just gonna fix it with some chewing gum" - nothing to debate nothing to speculate - Lotus not getting bad rep on the internet.

Its always more worrying when teams don't reveal their problems

 

[Road of Bones]

I have faith that there are people at Enstone who are perfectly capable of fixing whatever is wrong with the E20, and I'm reasonably sure we'll be told what was wrong with it once they have done so and got some miles on the chassis at next week's test.

Patience!

 

[tranquility2k9]

Another interesting fact. Red Bull have only covered 100+ laps on 1 out of the 8 days of testing so far and that was only 104 laps. Webber seemed to be in the garage an awful lot today and they've seemed to have had some kind of technical problem each day. They're a bit unreliable at this stage compared to the standard they set last year.

Ferrari are the same, they managed 103 laps so 100+ laps for the first time today. Although they've probably had worse reliability than any other car.

 

[snowy]

Afternoon times only:

K. Kobayashi

120 	1:22.312 	

121 	1:28.690 	+6.378

122 	---- 	

123 	1:28.712 	

124 	1:29.024 	+0.312

125 	1:29.145 	+0.121

126 	1:29.794 	+0.649

127 	---- 	

128 	1:29.794 	

129 	---- 	

130 	1:29.794 	

131 	1:25.794 	-4

132 	1:25.890 	+0.096

133 	1:26.558 	+0.668

134 	1:26.939 	+0.381

135 	1:27.508 	+0.569

136 	1:27.475 	-0.033

137 	1:28.094 	+0.619

138 	1:30.310 	+2.216

139 	---- 	

140 	1:30.310 	

141 	1:29.569 	-0.741

142 	1:27.138 	-2.431

143 	1:28.250 	+1.112

144 	---- 	

145 	1:28.250 



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 P. Maldonado

101 	1:29.752 	

102 	1:22.561 	-7.191

103 	1:29.752 	+7.191

104 	1:30.358 	+0.606

105 	1:30.189 	-0.169

106 	1:30.190 	+0.001

107 	1:30.658 	+0.468

108 	1:30.538 	-0.12

109 	1:30.366 	-0.172

110 	1:30.414 	+0.048

111 	---- 	

112 	1:30.414 	

113 	---- 	

114 	1:32.811 	

115 	1:29.920 	-2.891

116 	1:29.412 	-0.508

117 	1:29.697 	+0.285

118 	1:29.801 	+0.104

119 	1:29.969 	+0.168

120 	1:30.268 	+0.299

121 	1:30.311 	+0.043

122 	1:30.455 	+0.144

123 	1:30.149 	-0.306

124 	1:31.739 	+1.59

125 	1:30.169 	-1.57

126 	---- 	

127 	1:30.169 	

128 	1:30.872 	+0.703

129 	1:30.305 	-0.567

130 	1:30.457 	+0.152

131 	---- 	

132 	1:30.457 



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P. Di Resta

71 	1:23.119 	

72 	1:31.771 	+8.652

73 	1:28.302 	-3.469

74 	1:29.902 	+1.6

75 	1:28.861 	-1.041

76 	1:28.566 	-0.295

77 	1:28.660 	+0.094

78 	1:32.625 	+3.965

79 	1:28.689 	-3.936

80 	1:28.730 	+0.041

81 	1:28.896 	+0.166

82 	1:29.049 	+0.153

84 	1:28.989 	-0.06

85 	1:29.115 	+0.126

86 	---- 	

87 	1:29.115 	

88 	1:28.314 	-0.801

89 	1:29.437 	+1.123

90 	1:28.381 	-1.056

91 	1:28.489 	+0.108

92 	1:28.636 	+0.147

93 	1:28.808 	+0.172

94 	1:28.927 	+0.119

95 	1:28.965 	+0.038

96 	1:29.456 	+0.491

97 	1:29.319 	-0.137

98 	1:29.766 	+0.447

99 	1:30.185 	+0.419

100 	---- 	



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[snowy]

Afternoon times only:

[quote][pre]

J. Button

95 	1:23.200 	

96 	1:29.587 	+6.387

97 	1:27.628 	-1.959

98 	1:27.664 	+0.036

99 	1:27.604 	-0.06

100 	1:28.033 	+0.429

101 	1:28.144 	+0.111

102 	1:28.388 	+0.244

103 	1:28.408 	+0.02

104 	1:33.124 	+4.716

105 	1:28.566 	-4.558

106 	1:28.721 	+0.155

107 	1:29.100 	+0.379

108 	1:29.542 	+0.442

109 	1:29.685 	+0.143

110 	---- 	

111 	1:29.685 	

112 	---- 	

113 	1:29.685 



[/quote]

F. Massa

71 	1:23.563 	

72 	1:27.747 	+4.184

73 	1:30.531 	+2.784

74 	1:26.506 	-4.025

75 	1:26.441 	-0.065

76 	1:26.377 	-0.064

77 	1:26.616 	+0.239

78 	1:26.658 	+0.042

79 	1:26.739 	+0.081

80 	1:26.586 	-0.153

81 	1:27.093 	+0.507

82 	1:27.241 	+0.148

83 	1:27.254 	+0.013

84 	1:28.691 	+1.437

85 	1:28.003 	-0.688

86 	---- 	

87 	1:28.003 	

88 	1:24.763 	-3.24

89 	1:34.553 	+9.79

90 	1:24.957 	-9.596

91 	1:25.075 	+0.118

92 	1:25.214 	+0.139

93 	1:25.732 	+0.518

94 	1:25.779 	+0.047

95 	1:26.238 	+0.459

96 	1:27.853 	+1.615

97 	1:26.343 	-1.51

98 	1:26.264 	-0.079

99 	---- 	

100 	1:26.264 	

101 	---- 



[/quote]

M. Webber	

54 	1:24.059 	

55 	---- 	

56 	1:24.059 	

57 	1:29.978 	+5.919

58 	1:29.982 	+0.004

59 	1:29.882 	-0.1

60 	1:29.700 	-0.182

61 	1:30.210 	+0.51

62 	1:30.318 	+0.108

63 	1:30.445 	+0.127

64 	1:31.969 	+1.524

65 	1:30.520 	-1.449

66 	1:30.401 	-0.119

67 	1:30.365 	-0.036

68 	1:30.991 	+0.626

69 	1:30.785 	-0.206

70 	---- 	

71 	1:30.785 	

72 	1:28.139 	-2.646

73 	1:28.243 	+0.104

74 	1:28.196 	-0.047

75 	1:28.204 	+0.008

76 	1:28.434 	+0.23

77 	1:28.576 	+0.142

78 	1:28.593 	+0.017

79 	1:28.558 	-0.035

80 	1:28.836 	+0.278

81 	---- 	

82 	1:28.836 	

83 	1:28.269 	-0.56



[/quote]

[/pre]

 

[snowy]

Afternoon times only:

J-E. Vergne

80 	1:32.952 	

81 	---- 	

82 	1:32.952 	

83 	---- 	

84 	1:32.952 	

85 	---- 	

86 	1:32.952 	

87 	---- 	

88 	1:32.952 	

89 	---- 	

90 	1:32.952 	

91 	---- 



[/quote]

N. Rosberg

124 	1:27.781 	

125 	---- 	

126 	1:27.781 	

127 	1:31.049 	+3.268

128 	1:24.729 	-6.32

129 	1:24.969 	+0.24

130 	1:26.058 	+1.089

131 	1:26.478 	+0.42

132 	1:26.716 	+0.238

133 	1:27.035 	+0.319

134 	1:27.329 	+0.294

135 	1:27.445 	+0.116

136 	1:27.727 	+0.282

137 	---- 	

138 	1:27.727 



[/quote]

H. Kovalainen

51 	1:27.047 	

52 	1:28.351 	+1.304

53 	---- 	

54 	1:28.351 	

55 	1:28.448 	+0.097

56 	1:28.270 	-0.178

57 	1:27.637 	-0.633

58 	1:27.620 	-0.017

59 	1:29.026 	+1.406

60 	---- 	

61 	1:29.026 	

62 	1:26.968 	-2.058

63 	1:27.668 	+0.7

64 	1:27.373 	-0.295

65 	1:27.446 	+0.073

66 	1:27.590 	+0.144

67 	---- 	

68 	1:27.590 	

69 	1:29.014 	+1.424



[/quote]

 

[sportsman]

Doesn't it worry you that they haven't stated what it is?

Not a jot.I wouldn't expect them to.
Neither would I expect any other team to state excactly what problems they might be having

 

[teabagyokel]

Not a jot.I wouldn't expect them to.
Neither would I expect any other team to state excactly what problems they might be having

I agree with sportsman, and Bonesy. We still haven't been informed truly by the Hornerati what caused the Vettel retirement in 2011.

 

[Lewywo4]

Peter Windsor posted an article yesterday regarding wednesday's testing at Barcelona, which some may find interesting.

http://peterwindsor.com/2012/02/21/notes-from-the-barcelona-testing-2/

 

[sushifiesta]

I have posted the results from this week's testing in my Pre-Season Testing Championship thread. The winning drivers/teams are:

Drivers:
1) Kobayshi, 77pts
2) Hulkenberg, 74.5pts
=3) Maldonado, Hamilton, 73pts

Teams:
1) McLaren, 127pts
2) Williams, 115.5pts
3) Sauber, 115pts

 

[downforce]

Here is every team and drivers total lap count so far

(Only for 2012 machines Mercedes laps in 2011 car not included here)


Red-Bull: 661
Vettel: 329
Webber: 332

McLaren: 774
Hamilton: 400
Button: 374

Ferrari: 457
Alonso: 106
Massa: 351

Mercedes: 399
Schumacher: 178
Rosberg: 221

Lotus: 409
Raikkonen: 190
Grosjean: 219

Force India: 699
Di Resta: 354
Hulkenburg: 299
Bianchi: 46

Torro Rosso:612
Ricciardo:283
Vergne: 329

Williams: 826
Maldonado: 362
Senna: 347
Bottas: 117

Sauber: 693
Kobayashi: 426
Perez: 267

Caterham: 598
Kovalainen: 268
Petrov: 139
Trulli: 117
Van Der Garde: 74

Marrusia: 337
Pic: 229
Glock: 108

 

[downforce]

usual top teams
1: McLaren
2: Red-Bull
3: Ferrari

Usual top drivers
1: Hamilton
2: Button
3: Webber
4: Vettel
5: Alosno

Team and driver with most laps: Williams and kobayashi

Massa has 245 laps more than Alonso

 

[snowy]

Massa has 245 laps more than Alonso

Am I allowed to say he probably needs them?

 

[downforce]

lol, thats the only reason I pointed it out