Jos the Boss
Champion Elect
Ted Kravitz, twitter
Pre-Season 2012 Testing: Barcelona
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tranquility2k9
Podium Finisher
Ted also tweets:- "And Mark Webber admits Red Bull need to improve the car for Melbourne, 'no question', says there's less grip than Jerez, esp last sector."
Interesting video with Webber here, it's at the start of the video labelled "testing day for di resta" - http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/7540832/Mixed-day-for-di-Resta
He says they have less grip than in Jerez and does not sound half as confident as he did back there.
Interesting video with Webber here, it's at the start of the video labelled "testing day for di resta" - http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/7540832/Mixed-day-for-di-Resta
He says they have less grip than in Jerez and does not sound half as confident as he did back there.
tranquility2k9
Podium Finisher
Don't believe a word.
Plus, that translation is appalling!
Wow - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97662
It appears that it is official so my source cannot be so bad after all. Maybe wait a little next time before shooting something down. I only posted it because it was all over twitter and even in the press. It was just at the time, that was the only official article on it and as it was not in English I just put it through a translator!
In serious trouble! in what way? I must be missing something 
snowy
Champion Elect
A rather strange interpretation of Jenson's lap times:
http://cliptheapex.com/threads/2012-testing-barcelona.4590/page-5#post-109272
Typical F1 sensational type article.Why do these people overstate everything.
Last year it was Pirelli marbling a serious issue.Turned out that was false.Lotus have a chassis problem this year.
Ah its a serious issue if they have abandon testing.Their season is all ready over comments.
And they will be at Barcelona next week testing.
snowy
Champion Elect
Jenson Button's stint this morning:
Tyre wear doesn't appear to be an issue today...
24 ----
25 1:28.613
26 1:28.771 +0.158
27 1:28.590 -0.181
28 1:28.671 +0.081
29 1:28.436 -0.235
30 1:28.335 -0.101
31 1:28.330 -0.005
32 1:28.300 -0.03
33 1:28.360 +0.06
34 1:28.566 +0.206
35 1:29.301 +0.735
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Tyre wear doesn't appear to be an issue today...
Sporsman - I appreciate you're a Lotus fan defend them to the hilt but thats not quite what was said - it was stated that it would be damaging for their up and coming season and to be fair you have no idea yet whether it will be or not however a chassie falling apart and having to be withdrawn can never be viewed as a good thing can it? Even if they've managed ot pull off a miracle fix that hasn't effected other areas of the car you have to admitt that missing a weeks testing when you have 2 drivers who haven't driven in F1 since 2009 has to be damaging.
Raspy
First and foremost I am not a Lotus fan.In fact I am not a fan of any team or driver.
I am only interested in fair comments .Your comment that their chassis was "falling apart" seems rather overstating the case to my eyes.
Losing test days can never be a good thing I agree.But that is the whole object of testing.To identify problems and rectify them before the first race in Australia.
In fact they will not "lose a weeks testing".They are expected to granted one extra days testing in the same manner as granted to Mercedes so in reality they effectively only lose two days.
Are you sure? I just assumed because you've lept to their defence evertime a comment has been made against them even before this (I suggested they may have been showboating for the Kimi headlines). I guess I won't assume from now on.
The Chassie was not holding together correctly was the statement issued by the team therefore falling apart might be an extreme way of describing it but technically correct.
and being granted and extra days testing after missing a 4 days test doesn't seem the best deal to me. I think its fair to call this a set back for the team.
snowy
Champion Elect
Nico Rosberg Race Simulation?
26 ----
27 1:31.544
28 1:28.976 -2.568
29 1:28.879 -0.097
30 1:30.481 +1.602
31 1:29.055 -1.426
32 1:29.531 +0.476
33 1:29.683 +0.152
34 1:29.944 +0.261
35 1:30.024 +0.08
36 1:29.968 -0.056
37 1:29.991 +0.023
38 ----
39 1:29.991
40 1:27.258 -2.733
41 1:27.608 +0.35
42 1:27.609 +0.001
43 1:27.984 +0.375
44 1:28.228 +0.244
45 1:28.459 +0.231
46 1:29.062 +0.603
47 1:29.363 +0.301
48 1:29.217 -0.146
49 1:29.389 +0.172
50 1:29.208 -0.181
51 1:29.341 +0.133
52 1:29.548 +0.207
53 1:30.024 +0.476
54 1:29.912 -0.112
55 1:29.898 -0.014
56 ----
57 1:29.898
58 1:26.690 -3.208
59 1:27.044 +0.354
60 ----
61 1:27.044
62 1:27.804 +0.76
63 1:27.483 -0.321
64 1:27.791 +0.308
65 1:27.902 +0.111
66 1:28.138 +0.236
67 1:28.357 +0.219
68 1:28.043 -0.314
69 1:27.817 -0.226
70 1:28.373 +0.556
71 1:28.231 -0.142
72 1:28.381 +0.15
73 1:28.455 +0.074
74 1:28.327 -0.128
75 1:28.713 +0.386
76 ----
77 1:28.713
78 1:24.092 -4.621
79 1:24.956 +0.864
80 1:25.434 +0.478
81 1:25.739 +0.305
82 1:25.443 -0.296
83 1:25.611 +0.168
84 1:26.063 +0.452
85 1:26.874 +0.811
86 1:27.115 +0.241
87 1:27.084 -0.031
88 1:27.137 +0.053
89 1:27.421 +0.284
90 1:27.515 +0.094
91 1:27.532 +0.017
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Lotus press release states identified an issue with the chassis.What the issue was they did not give details.
tranquility2k9
Podium Finisher
If indeed that was a race simulation by Rosberg then the times look quite good. They look fairly similar to what Vettel / Hamilton did on Wednesday.
Also, Button's time of 1.23.2 on Hard tyres is probably the most speed McLaren have shown so far during testing. Pirelli say there's approx 0.6 between their tyres, so that means he could do a 1.21.4 and that's only assuming he was running on fumes, which is probably unlikely. All in all I think that's a pretty good lap time. He actually did a 1.23.4 on hards a short while after but did a better first sector time too.
Clearly none of the big 4 have shown their hand yet but to note their best times and tyres thus far:-
Vettel:- 1.22.891 (Soft)
Alonso:- 1.23.180 (Super-Soft)
Schumacher:- 1.23.384 (Soft)
Button:- 1.23.200 (Hard)
It still obviously means nothing overall in comparison, but it is probably the most impressive burst of speed shown by any of the top 4 teams so far and it's nice to know McLaren look like they're not too bad over 1 lap.
Also, Button's time of 1.23.2 on Hard tyres is probably the most speed McLaren have shown so far during testing. Pirelli say there's approx 0.6 between their tyres, so that means he could do a 1.21.4 and that's only assuming he was running on fumes, which is probably unlikely. All in all I think that's a pretty good lap time. He actually did a 1.23.4 on hards a short while after but did a better first sector time too.
Clearly none of the big 4 have shown their hand yet but to note their best times and tyres thus far:-
Vettel:- 1.22.891 (Soft)
Alonso:- 1.23.180 (Super-Soft)
Schumacher:- 1.23.384 (Soft)
Button:- 1.23.200 (Hard)
It still obviously means nothing overall in comparison, but it is probably the most impressive burst of speed shown by any of the top 4 teams so far and it's nice to know McLaren look like they're not too bad over 1 lap.
Are you breathing a little easier today then Tranq? 
Actually - that Button lap time on the Hards is pretty impressive, even for testing!
Actually - that Button lap time on the Hards is pretty impressive, even for testing!
snowy
Champion Elect
Pastor Maldonado Race Simulation?
3 ----
4 1:33.028
5 1:31.200 -1.828
6 1:31.837 +0.637
7 1:30.436 -1.401
8 1:30.822 +0.386
9 1:30.864 +0.042
10 1:30.718 -0.146
11 1:30.713 -0.005
12 1:30.800 +0.087
13 1:30.685 -0.115
14 1:33.678 +2.993
15 1:30.407 -3.271
16 1:30.602 +0.195
17 1:30.695 +0.093
18 ----
19 1:30.695
20 1:27.511 -3.184
21 1:27.849 +0.338
22 1:28.361 +0.512
23 1:29.158 +0.797
24 1:28.782 -0.376
25 1:29.145 +0.363
26 1:29.324 +0.179
27 1:29.251 -0.073
28 1:29.351 +0.1
29 1:29.684 +0.333
30 1:30.039 +0.355
31 1:29.996 -0.043
32 1:30.288 +0.292
33 1:30.237 -0.051
34 ----
35 1:30.237
36 1:27.447 -2.79
37 1:27.006 -0.441
38 1:26.969 -0.037
39 1:26.959 -0.01
40 1:27.261 +0.302
41 1:27.123 -0.138
42 1:27.443 +0.32
43 1:27.467 +0.024
44 1:27.950 +0.483
45 1:27.662 -0.288
46 1:27.759 +0.097
47 1:27.774 +0.015
48 1:27.996 +0.222
49 1:28.279 +0.283
50 1:28.388 +0.109
51 ----
52 1:28.388
53 1:24.774 -3.614
54 1:24.667 -0.107
55 1:25.255 +0.588
56 1:25.478 +0.223
57 1:26.429 +0.951
58 1:26.241 -0.188
59 1:26.474 +0.233
60 1:26.616 +0.142
61 1:26.615 -0.001
62 1:26.519 -0.096
63 1:26.881 +0.362
64 1:27.188 +0.307
65 1:27.413 +0.225
66 1:28.027 +0.614
67 1:28.147 +0.12
68 1:29.000 +0.853
69 1:29.049 +0.049
70 1:29.930 +0.881
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I know it's early days and the Vicar has been using the stickiest tyres quite a bit, but on the evidence of all the tests so far, do we think Williams are maybe on the up and Caterham going backwards a bit?
The Artist.....
Champion Elect
Hmm... I seem to remember Wiliams saying they were in negotiations with a telecommunications company....
Oh, no wait, that was Bruno... Sorry Embratel....
My guess is that Williams are trying it on a little, but they have undoubtedly improved, but they need to justify the Venezuelan money that's coming their way - due to the investigation going on in Venezuela!!! - Hence why Maldo has been rocket ship fast, but neither Senna, nor the test driver, were that quick.....
I seem to remember Williams topping the time sheets this time last year as well so I'm making no judgements on them just as of yet. It does seem that the teams who are trying to attract sponsors or backing have a habbit of looking quick this time of year.
As for Maldo - his problem has never been getting the lap times in - just getting them in on race day!
As for Maldo - his problem has never been getting the lap times in - just getting them in on race day!
