Grand Prix 2011 Japanese Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Josh

Champion Elect
All these comments have made me really curious: what were they listening to that was so horrible?
 

Slyboogy

World Champion
Contributor
I am bit late on here again!

First of all great job by Vettel to become double world champion and continuing to harass Alonso the finish. Also well done to Button too! A great dry race from him and thoroughly beat Hamilton.

McLaren was clearly the best car this weekend, but what was with Hamilons pace?


Great races by Alonso, Schumacher and Petrov! I would have liked it if Alonso had won, I am no fan of his, but for the first time, I was cheering him on! Maybe it's the old Ferrari genes in me coming back or wanting a good finish. Schumacher has been there all weekend, he managed to make his tyres last longer than everyone else in the stints, probably the key to the good finish, but good pace aswell keeping up with the front 3 teams.

Not happy with Toro Rosso, first in qualifying with a bad strategy then not fitting in Buemi's tyre properly at the stops (yes this stuff happens) but he was on course for some good points at another drivers circuit and has to retire through no fault of his own. If you want to talk about sabotaging, then you have to say Toro Rosso are sabotaging Buemi to favour Alguersauri ;)

Over all quite an exciting race, the DRS was bit of a strange one, sometimes it was too easy to pass, then other times it was just nigh impossible.

And also it seemed for once, Webber didn't lose a position at the start! :shocked:

Seems like Ferrari and McLaren are back to fighting wins, but it's too little too late...
 

Slyboogy

World Champion
Contributor
Forgot to add...

I genuinly love the end of season clips so did anyone see this on the BBC? It was played during the full programme

Great clip! Love the song, got goosebumps watching it, great song, and very fitting:

 

Josephiah

Podium Finisher
For once, this was a race where the quick tyre degradation began to annoy me: while I enjoy the way drivers on different tyres and/or different ages of tyre means more variation in pace and therefore more chances for attacking and defence, I lost count of the number of battles that were shaping up beautifully only for the driver under attack to scarper off into the pits.

Obviously it makes sense from the defending driver's point of view to go in for new tyres at that point, but I was starting to feel a bit robbed after a while...
 

no-FIAt-please

Champion Elect
Premium Contributor
This is good to see, Vettel doing donuts for the fans at turn 2.


I just wish the teams and FIA were less strict on it...
 

Vortex

Race Winner
This is good to see, Vettel doing donuts for the fans at turn 2.

I just wish the teams and FIA were less strict on it...
Excellent, not many but better than none, they should always do donuts after wins, well definitely after a WDC win! No idea why the FIA don’t like this thing, maybe FIA stands for ‘Fun It Aint’

Last one I remember was Webber, they were pretty good too.

 

KekeTheKing

Banned
Supporter
I'm currently watching the Onboard Feed, and it was Live with Webber when he clipped Schumachers left rear on the entry to Dunlop, and then steamed on through. This happened on Lap 21, BEFORE Hamilton and Massa came together mind you.

So in the span of nearly 5 laps (2 with the SC) following this incident; we saw no fewer than 5 replays of Hamilton/Massa, the Safety Car being deployed, and news of an investigation involving cars 3 and 6. No news whatsoever of an even more egregious incident in which a position change actually took place. Then on Lap 26 we get a very brief replay of Webber hitting Schumacher, losing a large portion of his front wing, and Michael getting a bit out of shape. They couldn't even bother to show Mark completing the "maneuver". Both Brundle and Coulthard were at a loss to explain when exactly this had happened, and who could blame them.

Seeing as this was viewed on the main Onboard Channel being broadcast throughout the globe, I find it inconceivable that this incident was handled in such a haphazard way. It was treated as a complete non-event while something that happened AFTER it was put on full display over and over while an investigation was launched.
 

Josh

Champion Elect
I think it's a bit strange, too, but to be fair, the safety car was out so that the marshals could collect the debris at the hairpin where they came together... It's not that strange to replay the cause of the safety car.

It's certainly not as big an issue as you're making of it... In my opinion of course.
 

KekeTheKing

Banned
Supporter
Well the FIA said the SC was deployed for debris at Turns 7 and 16. And they still hadn't shown the reason for the debris at Turn 7 (Webber's wing), and wouldn't show it for another two laps.

I think transparency is a pretty big deal.

edit-

It's not that strange to replay the cause of the safety car.
You're right, it's not. It is however strange not to be shown one of the stated reasons for the SC.
 

Slyboogy

World Champion
Contributor
It wouldn't be the first time something like this was missed on live feed, but it's strange nevertheless.
 
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