Grand Prix 2011 Japanese Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Speshal

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From that ever reliable source wikipedia:

Helmet manufacturer Arai have said that Vettel 'retires' a helmet design after each win.
So that'd be 9 this season alone ;)
 

Bill Boddy

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Must have lost a few of them whilst running with the puncture. Lost a second to a second and a half a lap behind Rosberg. I suspect other traffic and tyre wear issues easily account for the rest.
But the puncture time was quoted as being seven seconds, that is included in the ten. The other fourteen seconds were lost elsewhere.

Hamilton was not on the podium today because he did not go fast enough today and was beaten fair and square by Button.
 

Galahad

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Nice double standards. Thought people were allowed opinions but not allowed to have a go at members because of theirs? If you care to read on you'll see my reasoning.
I'm sorry, I posted in a moment of frustration which was a mistake. I humbly apologise.

I did read the whole thread, though, and vehemently disagree with you. Hamilton was incidental to this race though so I won't bang on about it.
 

Hamberg

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But the puncture time was quoted as being seven seconds, that is included in the ten. The other fourteen seconds were lost elsewhere.

Hamilton was not on the podium today because he did not go fast enough today and was beaten fair and square by Button.
Hamilton suffered understeer from the new tyres after a long stop to check for damage, his next stop was 4.1 seconds against Button's at 3.3. He also had to make overtakes which as we know can cost a bit of time plus his car had enough fuel to get him back after the race, coupled with cruising to the end as there were no more places to gain.

Ahead of Button before the puncture he pulled out a 2.5 second gap and his tyres were older.
 

Hamberg

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I'm sorry, I posted in a moment of frustration which was a mistake. I humbly apologise.

I did read the whole thread, though, and vehemently disagree with you. Hamilton was incidental to this race though so I won't bang on about it.
Thanks G and fair enough.
 

Bill Boddy

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Hamilton suffered understeer from the new tyres after a long stop to check for damage, his next stop was 4.1 seconds against Button's at 3.3. He also had to make overtakes which as we know can cost a bit of time plus his car had enough fuel to get him back after the race, coupled with cruising to the end as there were no more places to gain.

Ahead of Button before the puncture he pulled out a 2.5 second gap and his tyres were older.
According to the FIA http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/timing.aspx Hamilton spent a total of 2.4 seconds more than Button in the pit lane. So the "lengthy" stop cannot have been that long. Button usually drops behind during the first part of any stint if there is not an immediate chance of an overtake. He saves his tyres this way and it allows him to go on the attack during the latter part of the stint.
 
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Hamberg

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According to the FIA http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/timing.aspx Hamilton spent a total of 2.4 seconds more than Button in the pit lane. So the "lengthy" stop cannot have been that long. Button usually drops behind during the first part of any stint if there is not an immediate chance of an overtake. He saves his tyres this way and it allows him to go on the attack during the latter part of the stint.
Agree with the second point and whilst I don't agree Hamilton was slower, I think the tyre saving would have been interesting, but is 2.4 seconds in F1 terms not lengthy? It certainly qualifies as a long stop.
 

tonyw151

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not only that, I felt they kept him out far too long on his 2nd stint, especially as he was one of the 1st to stop previously
 

HammydiRestarules

Di Resta fan :).
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Hats of to all those Japanese fans for sitting in the grandstand for a few hours after the race to cheer on their hero's. Was mightly impressed by their support, you know i think the Japanese fans have passed the British fans and are the best F1 fans in the world now. :).
 

HammydiRestarules

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The music was shocking, nearly turned the forum off twice because of it!

Give me Guns and Roses or Bon Jovi any day of the week :).
 
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HammydiRestarules

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Well we all know that Red Bull are the party animals of the F1 Grid. Wonder how they'll celebrate winning the Constructors championship next weekend?
 
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