Grand Prix 2010 Monaco Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

McZiderRed

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Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Today in free practice, Crofty & AD were discussing whether Bruno would manage to beat Ayrton's fastest lap time at Monaco. Perhaps this is slightly beside the point...
 
Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

McZiderRed said:
Today in free practice, Crofty & AD were discussing whether Bruno would manage to beat Ayrton's fastest lap time at Monaco. Perhaps this is slightly beside the point...
Maybe they are trying to prove that the slowest driver on the grid today is faster than the quickest driver 16 years ago. And as soon as I figure what the point of that would be, I'll post it here. LOL
 

Brogan

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Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Well Nazi Germany was from 1933 to 1945 and as Mercedes' wins were in 1935, 1936 and 1937 then the flag is historically accurate, isn't it?
 

McZiderRed

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Cancer Cowboy said:
From a Wikipedia page about multiple winners (constructors). Notice the flag next to Mercedes GP. That is weird.
I think it probably has something to do with this:

"Mercedes-Benz formerly competed in Grand Prix motor racing in the 1930s, when the Silver Arrows dominated alongside rivals Auto Union. Both teams were heavily funded by the Nazi regime, winning all European Grand Prix Championships after 1932, of which Rudolf Caracciola won three for Mercedes-Benz."

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_GP
 

snowy

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Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Unfortunately the flag of the Third Reich was used by the whole of Germany between 1933 and 1945.

I'm pleased to report that the current owners of Mercedes Benz don't display the attributes of those responsible for the Holocaust.
 

McZiderRed

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snowy said:
I'm pleased to report that the current owners of Mercedes Benz don't display the attributes of those responsible for the Holocaust.
Yep, absolutely agree.
 
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Brogan said:
Well Nazi Germany was from 1933 to 1945 and as Mercedes' wins were in 1935, 1936 and 1937 then the flag is historically accurate, isn't it?
The only problem is that when you click on the flag it takes you to the article about Germany, not Nazi Germany (which has an article of its own :D )
 

Brogan

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Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

P3 there gave us some indication of what to expect in Q1 I feel.
Drivers backing off to give themselves some space only to impede the driver behind them who has to brake which then affects the driver behind them and so on...

Apparently he FIA has told drivers to keep driving quickly when they are not on flying laps.

Drivers will have to travel between the first and last corner no slower than 1 minute 22 seconds, about 7 seconds off the ultimate pace, to avoid penalties.

The big question though is Alonso going to make qualifying?
After stuffing it into the barriers early in P3, the team have less than 2 hours to fix the car before Q1.
 

Enja

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Alonso's onboard crash. Lots of understeer - went on the marbles?
 

Brogan

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Thanks Enja :thumbsup:

A very odd crash, just a ton of understeer with no obvious reason.
 

Brogan

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Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Mark on pole for the second race running.
He has to be favourite for the win bearing in mind how difficult it is to overtake around Monaco.

An excellent result also for Robert Kubica splitting the Red Bulls.

We shall have to wait and see whether Massa is penalised for blocking Button in Q3.
There really is no excuse for that in Q3 with just 10 cars on the circuit.
 

Enja

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Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Urgh Webber :censored: :censored:

Could really do with Kubica sticking it down the inside of Webber and Vettel doing something stupid.
 

Galahad

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Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

I've just watched Mark's pole lap on the BBC website, and was struck forcibly by how (comparatively) messy it was. He was off the throttle between Massenet and Casino; ran wide in Mirabeau; nowhere near the apex at Loews, and was very untidy exiting Rascasse. So there may be more performance in that Red Bull (notwithstanding that the car seemed to lose about 0.8s between Saturday and Sunday last weekend :D )

All makes Vettel look a bit sad too.
 

Brogan

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It's interesting you mention the messy lap, most drivers seemed to make errors on their flying laps today.
Even Button looked ragged when he is normally considered to be "Mr Smooth".

I expect Mark will romp away with it tomorrow and soon be lapping the rest of the field.
 

McZiderRed

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I would love to see Kubica squeeze Mark at turn 1 and hopefully go on to win. The "Cube" deserves a bit of a break in fortune, as he's had a bit of a bum deal since mid 2009 (when BMW threw in the towel :dunno: )

But also, it would mean Mr Horner won't be looking smug on my TV screen... hopefully.
 

Brogan

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Excellent opportunistic move by Schumacher on Alonso at the last corner restart :D

It's under investigation though due to another of F1's silly rules:

"If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking"

So the safety car is in, it's green flag racing but the drivers can't overtake?
Are they just supposed to form up in an orderly queue and cross the line?

That rule needs to be looked at and scrubbed or rewritten.
 

teabagyokel

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I'm rather persuaded by Ross Brawn's argument that it was fine and dandy. Christ, they shouldn't be punishing the only attempt at something interesting happening all weekend!
 

Brogan

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Re: 2010 Monaco GP Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

I have a feeling he will lose the place.

They will just apply the strict definition of the rule and ignore the contradiction of the wording, the instructions given to the teams and the flags and lights.

I wonder how many weeks it will take to drag this through the courts...
 
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