Poll The Worst Year or Era of F1 Dominance

What was/is the worst period or year of dominance in F1?

  • Lotus/Clark/Hill - 1960's

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • McLaren/Lauda/Prost/Senna - 1980 & early 90's

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • Williams/Mansell - 1992

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ferrari/Schumacher - early 2000's

    Votes: 6 42.9%
  • Brawn/Button - 2009

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Red Bull/Vettel - early 2010's

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Mercedes/Hamilton/Rosberg (?) - mid-2010's to 2020

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Red Bull/Verstappen - 2021 to ......

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Total voters
    14

F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
also i have been calculating round 16's under the current points system & some are quite fascinating. mainly Mansell only 20 pts shy of mclaren in 1988 despite retiring from 3 of the last 4 races. & in constructors a strange 1 where 2002 was seemingly the most dominant driver year but 2004 was the most dominant car year

Drivers

198819921995200220042009201120132014201620202022
Prost 308Mansell 285Schumacher 276Schumacher 361Schumacher 344Button 226Vettel 351Vettel 328Hamilton 297Rosberg 294Hamilton 332Verstappen 335
Senna 277Schumacher 183Hill 173Barrichello 210Barrichello 259Vettel 183Button 225Alonso 208Rosberg 279Hamilton 264Bottas 205Leclerc 219
Berger 148Patrese 180Herbert 167Montoya 168Button 191Barrichello 181Webber 214Raikkonen185Riccardo 199Riccardo 208Verstappen 189Perez 210
Boutsen129Berger 159Coulthard 155Coulthard 159Alonso 124Webber 154Alonso 213Hamilton 170Bottas 146Raikkonen 161Perez 125Russell 203
Piquet 97Senna 151Alesi 137R Schumacher 157Trulli 117Raikkonen 124Hamilton 199Webber 152Vettel 144Vettel 153Riccardo 112Sainz 187

Constuctors
198819921995200220042009201120132014201620202022
McLaren 585Williams 465Benetton 443Ferrari 571Ferrari 603Brawn 407Red Bull 565Red Bull 480Mercedes 576Mercedes 562Mercedes 540Red Bull 545
Ferrari 241Benetton 329Williams 328Williams 322BAR 260Red Bull 337McLaren 424Mercedes 314Red Bull 343Red Bull 362Red Bull 282Ferrari 406
Benetton 193Mclaren 310Ferrari 260McLaren 232Renault 241Ferrari 184Ferrari 313Ferrari 310Williams 217Ferrari 314Racing Point 209Mercedes 371
 
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siffert_fan

Too old to watch the Asian races live.
Contributor
The simplest way of determining the dominance of a car/team is looking at the number of times a team's drivers finished first and second in the championship. In the Ferrari era, their drivers finished first and second twice. In the Red Bull era, They never finished 1-2. In the Mercedes era, their drivers finished first and second in the championship five times.
 

cider_and_toast

Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex
Staff Member
Premium Contributor
In the Red Bull era, They never finished 1-2
I know you are no fan of Hamilton / Mercedes but that's simply not true unless you are only talking about 2021 which in no way can be described as Red Bull domination. Mercedes won the constructors title and Verstappen only won the drivers title thanks to "Human error."

Red Bull won 4 consecutive constructors titles between 2010 and 2013. During this period Webber and Vettel finished 1-2 on twelve occasions.

This season alone Perez and Verstappen have finished 1-2 on 4 occasions.
 

Brogan

Legend
Staff Member
I believe he means in the WDC.

Perhaps it's just because Rosberg and Bottas were better drivers than the second drivers for Ferrari and Red Bull and were actually allowed to race their team mate.
 

siffert_fan

Too old to watch the Asian races live.
Contributor
I know you are no fan of Hamilton / Mercedes but that's simply not true unless you are only talking about 2021 which in no way can be described as Red Bull domination. Mercedes won the constructors title and Verstappen only won the drivers title thanks to "Human error."

Red Bull won 4 consecutive constructors titles between 2010 and 2013. During this period Webber and Vettel finished 1-2 on twelve occasions.

This season alone Perez and Verstappen have finished 1-2 on 4 occasions.
In the four years Vetteltook the WDC, Webber never finished higher than third in the championship.
 

siffert_fan

Too old to watch the Asian races live.
Contributor
I believe he means in the WDC.

Perhaps it's just because Rosberg and Bottas were better drivers than the second drivers for Ferrari and Red Bull and were actually allowed to race their team mate.
I would agree that Rosberg was certainly better than Webber and Barrichello. I can't say the same about Bottas. IMO he is at best the sixth bet driver in the field.

The point is, IMO, ever since Bernie brought manufacturers in to the championship, the driver has played a much smaller part in the outcome. The disparity in car performance throughout the field is vastly different than in days of yore.
 

F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
The point is, IMO, ever since Bernie brought manufacturers in to the championship, the driver has played a much smaller part in the outcome. The disparity in car performance throughout the field is vastly different than in days of
i sort of agree because in 90s you could be in 4th 5th 6th team in constructors could stand on the podium & even win races. but now unless your top 3 you wont get on the podium

but if you take qualifying from hungary 1998.
- Frentzen was 2 seconds off in 7th & back row of the grid,
- 1 of them was 4.75 seconds off, other didnt make 107%
- Latifi in comparison slowest qualifier was only 2.2 seconds off Russell
 

Il_leone

World Champion
i sort of agree because in 90s you could be in 4th 5th 6th team in constructors could stand on the podium & even win races. but now unless your top 3 you wont get on the podium

but if you take qualifying from hungary 1998.
- Frentzen was 2 seconds off in 7th & back row of the grid,
- 1 of them was 4.75 seconds off, other didnt make 107%
- Latifi in comparison slowest qualifier was only 2.2 seconds off Russell
I remember in the 90s we had teams with drivers 10 seconds slower than the fastest . Deletraz waz infamous for qualifying slower than F3000 cars
That was down largely to teams testing on track endless. The main problem is we still have a situation where the leading teams have the biggest influence on the rules
 
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