Current Fernando Alonso

Suprised there's no thread (although I had one for his blogs), so i'll start off:

A double world championship vs Raikkonen and then Schumacher in 2005 and 2006 respectively elevated Alonso's status but, apparently, no one told his rookie teammate at his brand new team of a theoretical 'pecking order' the following season ... and the Spaniard was 'seen off' by the young Englishman, Hamilton, into two years of Wilderness while both Hamilton and an even younger Vettel began to make their mark through '08 and '09.

Arguably, Alonso was in the Top 3 of all the Formula One 'Aces' in the 2000s following Hakkinen's retirement - up there with either Schumacher/Raikkonen and, then, Raikkonen/Hamilton - and remains so in the early 2010s along with Hamilton/Vettel...with only Kubica knocking on the door until the Pole's horrible Rallying accident.

A question mark initially over 2004 during which Trulli lead him in the standing until the Italian fell out with ex-manager and team boss Flavio Briatore (Alonso's then business manager) under dubious circumstances after the French Grand Prix.

Another question mark is...Who has progressed more since the end of 2007: Hamilton or Alonso?

A fan. Then came the unfortunate blackmail allegations against McLaren boss Ron Dennis on the morning of the 2007 Hungarian GP which came to light at the highly costly FIA 'Spy-Gate' hearings before Spa...followed by the odour of the deliberate crashing of the Number 2 Renault car at Singapore in 2008 which lead to Alonso finishing 1st in the event and ended in the banning of Briatore and Pat Symmonds a year later.

2009 was a poor year with 'Nando's' mind likely on the prospect of Santander paving the way to better prospects at Maranello one year earlier.

2010 was a fresh start at Ferrari (who no longer had Schumacher walking through the premises regularly) but first half season mistakes ultimately cost him a title inspite of being infamously aided by a Team Orders switch w Massa at Hockenheim (which lead to more world-wide criticism).

Relatively fast, relatively consistent but prone to mistakes and a possible insecurity complex (*) based on wanting sole focus from a team and being only happy with a Number 2 in the other car running behind him. Anything else and it seemingly rattles him.

(*) This is my own personal opinion.

..and so to 2011...

He's underperformed only at Malaysia (hit Hamilton) and China (invisible while Massa challenged McLarens and Red Bulls) and, arguably, Canada...but has maximized his chances in the other 6 races culminating in the British GP win.

He said in his post-Monaco blog that 'Silverstone would be the WDC cut-off'...and so, after some major upgrades, the Ferrari looks a winner again. It might be too late for 2011 given Vettel's finishing rate...but the 2012 regs means they should keep the hammer down at Maranello.

He's signed on through to 2016...So hopes are high of a WDC at some juncture...but not yet.
 
Ok double post rant here:

When Alonso starts his first race for Renault in 2021 he will not have won a race for 8 years or a title for 15 years. I'd have to check it but I think he will probably hold the record for most grand Prix without a win.

Are we talking since his last win?

Alonso has gone 109 races since his last win. Andrea De Ceseris went a full career of 214 races, never winning.

If you mean longest wait since his last win, I'd have to look that one up but I have an idea or two.
 
cider_and_toast Alboreto? He has to be a contender for most races completed since last victory... 1985?

I think he went 147 races after his last victory... (if we count DNQs as races) (I did check Wikipedia after suggesting the date - I didn't just pluck 147 out of the air!)
 
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If I'm Ocon I'm getting out of there.

You know one day there will be a movie made about the 2007 F1 season that will encompass many different factors. It will end with Kimi winning the title and then go to that photo montage thing that they do. Alonso's update will just read "Fernando Alonso stayed in F1 for many years but never became World Champion again"
 
as i said before i dont get it, he completely contradricting himself

on biggest gaps between wins. what about kimi raikkonen that was a large gap
 
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You are checking for the gap between wins for former world champions right? Pretty sure I said most grand prixs without a win for a former world champion.

;)

Like I said, 134 race gap for Jacques Villeneuve, former world champion, singer songwriter and long time seat blocker.

Keep up 007. :D
 
Well, I'm going to say it.
Fernando Alonso is the most overrated driver in F1 history.
  • He was placed at Renault because Flabio was his manager (don't make me post that photo )
  • Trulli was dropped when he was going to beat Alonso
  • Alonso was unable to beat a rookie at McLaren (ok that Rookie was Hamilton)
  • He was slower than Button at McLaren (but Button was the one that got dropped)
  • He was flattered at Ferrari by an out-of-sorts Massa
There was no benefit to paying Alonso $40million per year!
Ever

Oh, and he only won Le Mans, because there was only one competitive team...
 
Appreciate this won't be a popular view around here, but if Nicolas Latifi can be an F1 driver, Fernando Alonso surely can be. Renault are under existential financial pressure - having Alonso on the team will generate the publicity that can hopefully mean they can continue their F1 programme, which must be a good thing.

Plus I think he's the best driver available - I have no idea what they'll be paying him, but other things being equal I'd have done the same.
 
I have to agree Galahad, he was/is a very good driver. Unfortunately he's a very unlikable human being, or at least his public persona gives that impression.
 
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