Grand Prix 2021 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

The Summer break is nearly over. Hurrah! The first race back is at one of the classic motor racing circuits. Hurrah! Probably for the first time ever I hope that it doesn't rain as this was what things looked like in June.


Not so much Eau Rouge as Eau Merde.

The last couple of races have set things up quite nicely for the titles races. Red Bull appear to have "awakened the Kraken" at Brackley with a, in my opinion, very poorly managed PR strategy following the incident between Max and Lewis at Silverstone. It looked like Merc had sort of written this season off after the early races as they got things ready for 2022. The anti-Hamilton onslaught seems to have given the (not) Silver Arrows a bit of an incentive to make some upgrades to the car, which has brought it back closer to the Red Bull, maybe even ahead.

I suspect that the completely over the top reaction from all concerned will have consequences with how these things are handled in future. F1 teams have tried to run the sport for too long now and those in charge need to help them understand that they are participants, not the stewards or rule makers. Yes, of course, they have a vested interest in the sport, but their vested interest is about helping them win rather than what is best for the sport more generally.

One simple solution would be to not allow the teams any contact/discussion with either the Race Director or Stewards whilst the race is in progress. The Race Director, from what I have read, is responsible for making the timetable work and deciding if the race should be slowed or stopped via the VSC, safety car or with red flags. The Stewards are there simply to consider, investigate and make decisions on incidents involving cars on track. Their decisions should be, and be seen to be, completely impartial and there should be no involvement or influence from anyone in any F1 team.

F1 teams should not be able to ask the Stewards to investigate an incident. They should not be allowed to contact the Stewards during the race, for any reason. If the Stewards issue a penalty, or decide not to, the teams should have no right to appeal whilst the race is in progress. Should a team not implement a penalty within the time decreed within the rules there should be additional sanction, preferably (from my perspective at least) with the car being black flagged.

After the race there should probably be a formal meeting between a nominated representative of each team where the Stewards go through the decision, with the hope that by explaining why the did what they did this would go back to the team and the drivers and maybe they wouldn't do it again. Of course there needs to be a right of appeal, but by not allowing it to take place during the race I would hope most teams would accept whatever punishment is meted out without complaint. I would also suggest that should a team appeal a decision as "too lenient" there should be some consequence for them if the appeal is not upheld. Perhaps a fine, maybe points deducted from the Constructors Championship.

I would also suggest that the press corp needs to take a step back. The push for an "instant response" from the team principal or some team hanger on exacerbates the situation. I would also like to see an end to the chat with the pit wall between the commentary team and a chosen race team. This is for a number of reasons: as already mentioned, the need for an instant response, but also because the discussions which I have witnessed are trite, pointless, and offer non insight in to the race, the teams plans or strategy.

If you would like to join me in this fantasy world where the teams teams listen to, and abide by the Stewards decisions, with no outward complaint or histrionics do switch on the next WEC or Formula E race and see how they manage it.

The race is on between 27th and 29th August and lasts for 44 laps. There will be lots of orange around the circuit, although this is more a home race for Max Verstappen than race in the Netherlands the weekend after as this Dutchman was born in Hasselt, Belgium (If I were born in a stable would it make me a horse?). Expect Lewis Hamilton to be booed every time he takes his helmet off. Hopefully it will not go beyond him being the pantomime villain.

Enjoy the race
 

cider_and_toast

Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex
Staff Member
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. I would also like to see an end to the chat with the pit wall between the commentary team and Christian Horner and maybe the guy who owns Haas if we're lucky.
Totally agree with this but fixed it for you to match the reality of 99 percent of race weekends.
 

F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
how about this for a brilliant fact. ive just read. no driver in this current configuration of spa where bus stop chicane was removed. has won the Belgian GP 2 yrs in a row

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P1

Pole Sitter
Thats very cool content F1Brits_90

However the source has incorrectly labelled the 2017 and 2020 cars. It is called the Mercedes-AMG W11 EQ Performance. The F1 team switched from Mercedes-Benz to Mercedes-AMG in 2017 following a similar re-branding of their AMG road cars (in 2016 all cars were Mercedes-Benz, since 2017 they had 3 brands - Mercedes-Benz, Mercedes-Maybach, and Mercedes-AMG).

 
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F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
P1 as yes they did move to AMG, i cant say i know much about the difference between AMG & Benz

& does the omens point towards a Max Verstappen victory
 

P1

Pole Sitter
P1 as yes they did move to AMG, i cant say i know much about the difference between AMG & Benz

& does the omens point towards a Max Verstappen victory
Perthaps. Although had Ferrari been disqualified in 2019 due to their cheating, then Ham would have won two years in a row!
 

F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
well the press conference tomorrow is going to be very interesting, everyone will be glued to tsunoda & alonso to see the fireworks

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F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
toto wolff doing his best darth vader impression.

so Toto, uncertain weather, Lewis Hamilton 18th in FP1 & Bottas with 5 place grid drop. are you on the back foot for the weekend
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"
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Il_leone

Champion Elect
I think Bottas has a good shot at winning the race...

The question is will Red Bull take their engine penalties now on a circuit which plays to their strengths

The weather might play havoc
 

The Artist.....

Champion Elect
Il_leone - remember that Bottas has a grid penalty for playing bowling in Hungary.

It might be sensible for Red Bull to roll the dice this weekend, as they know that Bottas has a penalty as well. The ideal for them would be if Hamilton had to take a penalty, but that’s not going to happen!
 
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