Grand Prix 2019 Bahrain Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

On the surface a triangle is a simple 3-sided shape. At some point in our education we learn that all of a triangles interior angles add up to 180’. Then the mathematics gets a little more complicated as various theories and concepts are added in to the mix. Most of us give up at that point as the reason or purpose for all this understanding is lost on us.

Some of us carry on in education and take up careers in engineering where, among many of its individual disciplines, the triangle takes on a new importance. From mechanical to structural and even electronic engineering, the maths and science surrounding this simple three shaped side, is used to develop everything from buildings to cars and complex electronic circuits.

In vehicle engineering the triangle plays an important role in the early formula one cars as the prime shape of its space frame. The frame is made up of sections of tubular structures formed from triangles. These tetrahedral truss’s form some of the strongest man-made structures since the shape is rigid and light weight relative to the materials used in its construction.

The first true space frame chassis appeared in the 1930’s and, like many other aspects of vehicle design, mirrored ongoing work in the aerospace industry. After the second world war, sports car makers such as Maserati, Porsche and Jaguar launched vehicles with space frame technology. Small British sports outfits such as TVR and Lotus followed the trend and soon, space frame technology found its way into motor racing.

While the monocoque replaced the space frame by the end of the 60’s, triangle shapes still play a key role in F1 cars, with body panels and suspension components still carrying this distinctive shape right up to the present day.

That triangular journey to the present day, didn’t start in the 1930’s. The history of the triangle dates back thousands of years. Its history spans cultures, people and the globe on a journey of scientific development the is far greater than its humble shape would have you believe. We tend not to dwell too much on the origins of things that we see every day. You don’t imagine that triangles and the science around them would have a beginning.

The most basic principles of a triangle are wrapped up in Pythagorean Theorem. Named in honour of the great Greek mathematician Pythagoras. In simple terms it’s written as a2+b2=c2 or, the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides.

Of course, triangular structures long predate Pythagoras. As an example what is the primary shape of the Pyramids of Giza? There is a great deal of evidence that the understanding of Pythagorean theory existed long before the man himself, even if it wasn't as well recorded.

This is where the culture of maths enters the story. The principle use of maths in the earliest periods of its development was for the study of astronomy. One of the cultures at the forefront of this research was the Islamic faith. Far from being the stereotypical people that we read about today in various right-wing papers and see misrepresented on our TV screens in one way or another, while many people in Britain were daubing their faces with plant dyes and charging at other people with pointy sticks, Islamic scholars had created the foundations for the scientific principles that frustrate and confuse school children across the globe today.

The word Trigonometry derives from the Greek words Triangle and Measure. Without the mathematical functions that this science gives us engineers in the pitlane would not be able to calculate huge amounts of data related to the speed and performance of a range of systems on their cars.

Sumerian astronomers studied the ratios between angles and circles and later, Babylonians discovered links between these ratios and types of triangle. The Greco Egyptian astronomer Ptolemy created the first trigonometric tables known as a table of chords. These tables were used across the growing world for the next 1200 years until more accurate tables could be produced. By the 10th century Islamic scientists were using all 6 trigonometric functions and were applying them to all sorts of geometric problems. The Persian mathematician Nasir al-Din al-Tusi has been described as the creator of Trigonometry as its own mathematical discipline and the first person to move trig fully away from astronomy and to create the mathematical uses that we still apply to problems in the present day.

So, when you watch the Bahrain GP, keep in mind that our scientific understanding of the world and the science that we see applied in almost every aspect of the GP we are watching, from the cars to the construction methods used in the steel stands that the race goers are sat on, owe a huge debt to the work of Islamic scholars who applied themselves to the puzzles of the world, thousands of years before.

Enjoy the GP.
 
So FP1 in Bahrain is known as the most pontless session of the season. A practice session in middady heat for a night race. The conditions they practice in will never be anything like the race. It really is a pointless exercise.
 
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Well, order had been returned with Vettel over Leclerc, Hamilton over Bottas, Verstappen over Gasly (and Hulkenberg over Ricciardo?). Ferrari has 0.6 seconds over Mercedes. Is the F1 world really so variable that they can go from 0.7 seconds behind to 0.6 seconds ahead? Suspect we have not seen the true speed of the Mercedes yet, especially as they are only 0.2 seconds ahead of Renault.
 
Yes Hulkenberg over Ricciardo. It will be the way of the season mostly. Ricciardo's already-dimming star will fade into a blurred blob of memories, mementos and maybes. Goodbye Danny Ricciardo, its been nice knowing you, except for the shoeys, 'nutsack' jokes and useless comment.
 
Yes Hulkenberg over Ricciardo. It will be the way of the season mostly. Ricciardo's already-dimming star will fade into a blurred blob of memories, mementos and maybes. Goodbye Danny Ricciardo, its been nice knowing you, except for the shoeys, 'nutsack' jokes and useless comment.

Do you honestly believe that?
He has outperformed Vettel and Verstappen as team mates on just about every stat.
I think the only thing Verstappen lead him on was quali but even then when it really counted and they were fighting for pole it was 3/0 to Ricciardo.
 
220 I may have been over-egging the pudding but I do believe that Hulkenberg will beat Ricciardo this season.

He beat Vettel when I believe Vettel wasn't really up for it. Hence I discount that as a bad year for Vettel that made Ricciardo look good, not a good year for Ricciardo because he beat a four-time world champ.

He didn't beat Verstappen on 'just about every stat'. In fact Verstappen soundly beat him on quali times throughout the season and on race pace especially the last half of last year, so I don't know where you’re coming from with that.

If we were still in the age of radio, you'd think Ricciardo was an idiot. His grin takes him a long way on telly.
 
Yes Hulkenberg over Ricciardo. It will be the way of the season mostly. Ricciardo's already-dimming star will fade into a blurred blob of memories, mementos and maybes. Goodbye Danny Ricciardo, its been nice knowing you, except for the shoeys, 'nutsack' jokes and useless comment.

according to karun. he's struggling with his set up. which is understandable considering that it is new team this only his 5th day in car. but as much as i like Ricardio you dont be that successful around Monaco being a bad driver. everyone knows how underrated i think hulkenburg is
 
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He didn't beat Verstappen on 'just about every stat'. In fact Verstappen soundly beat him on quali times throughout the season and on race pace especially the last half of last year, so I don't know where you’re coming from with that.

Well the stats I can find for them over the nearly 3 seasons together go something like this.
Quali Verstapen 34/24
Wins 5/5
Podiums Ricciardo 19/17
Poles Ricciardo 3/0
Fastest laps Ricciardo 8/4

I guess it depends on if you think half a season is a better statistical sample to base a call on than 3 seasons. You could use your Vettel excuse for the second half of last season, Ricciardo had already decided he was going to Renault this season and wasnt up for it.
 
Im another that thinks the hulk is under rated but I dont believe he is over a second quicker than Ricciardo.
Ricciardo for what ever reason just isnt comfortable with the Renault extracting 100% of the time out of it. When he finds it I doubt there will be much between them at all.
I expect them to be the closest in team driver fight for the season.
 
I just think that although it’s clear that Ricciardo is very good, he has been flattered by the circumstances of his team-mates to make him look extremely good. Likewise Hulkenberg is also very good but for wahatever reason hasn’t ever excelled. These two very good drivers will hopefully now quantify each other and themselves. My dislike for Ricciardo’s clumsy attempt at conversation and my appreciation for Hulkemberg’s seemingly honest brevity bias my thinking.
 
It appears to me that unless there is something of value on offer like a race win, podium, pole fastest lap etc, Ricciardo is happy to drive at 99.5% where as Max is at 100% all the time so comes out ahead.
When Ricciardo is at 100% he is as good or maybe slightly better.
I guess it is experience vs youth
 
Leclerc takes pole! Wow, good for him. An all Ferrari front row too, this is more what I expected last race after the testing results.

So is Charles going to show Seb the way home tomorrow? The start could be really interesting, shame I won't get to see it until Monday :disappointed:
 
Very nice. I was just watching a recorded version and the broadcast ended one minute before qualifying was done!

Still, it was clear that Leclerc was extremely comfortable. Nice to see to see him get his first pole.

A few observations/questions:
1. Why was Ferrari so slow at Australia?
2. I guess Mercedes was not sandbagging in testing.
3. The old Hamilton is still faster than the new Bottas.
4. This might be a good season yet.
5. Will Ferrari issue team orders?
6. Doesn't look like Red Bull is competitive with the big two.
7. Haas is starting to look like the best of the rest
8. McLaren is looking good.
9. The Ricciardo/Hulkenberg contest remains unresolved.
10. Kvyat is looking good. Gasly still has not.
 
Leclerc takes pole! Wow, good for him. An all Ferrari front row too, this is more what I expected last race after the testing results.

So is Charles going to show Seb the way home tomorrow? The start could be really interesting, shame I won't get to see it until Monday :disappointed:

Well, if it turns out to be a good season, you might have to pay to watch.
 
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