Grand Prix 2018 Hungarian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Hey, I don't like Villenueve as a commentator. He seems to go out of his way to say weird, extreme and obnoxious stuff.....perhaps to make sure he gets some air time. I don't remember him being like that when he was racing.
I think that he's just being very honest, he's the most straightforward guy you can meet. I find his comments refreshing but you know that I was always puzzled by his driving success

In fairness recently he said that Hamilton was becaming ridiculous with his statements and I think that he has a point, before that he said that Williams is toast and sadly once again he's the only one who has the guts to say what everyone know to be the case. I wish other people involved in F1 were as honest and decent as JV
 

RasputinLives

Doesn't look a bit like Jesus
Contributor
Could you have found a worse video of the 1990 Hungarian GP?

Well. I guess I could have not featured it in the thread. Or not done the thread at all. That would have been worse ;)

To be fair I used the one I did because it's only one I could find that showed the incident I was talking about around a min in rather than the entire race. If I say here is the entire race skip to 53 mins in not many people will bother. If I say 1 min 25 most people will do it.
 

The Artist.....

Champion Elect
RasputinLives - I'm just ribbing you! Have you any idea where that was originally taken from? I wonder if that was done in the days of point a video camera at a tv screen, and hope no-one coughs!
 

Ruslan

Podium Finisher
I think that he's just being very honest, he's the most straightforward guy you can meet. I find his comments refreshing but you know that I was always puzzled by his driving success

In fairness recently he said that Hamilton was becaming ridiculous with his statements and I think that he has a point, before that he said that Williams is toast and sadly once again he's the only one who has the guts to say what everyone know to be the case. I wish other people involved in F1 were as honest and decent as JV
There is a line between being honest.......and being obnoxious. For example, obviously everyone knows that Williams is struggling. Claire Williams even said that without the budget cap, they would not survive. Villenueve talking about Williams struggling and the challenges of that is fine. Saying they are toast....about the team that helped give him all 11 of his wins and a world championship.... that is kind of obnoxious.
 

gethinceri

Daniil Kvyat Fan. Alfa Romeo Fan.
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I don't agree, just because he got his wins and WDC with them doesn't mean he can't have an opinion, if he expresses it by saying they're "toast" then so what? I think they're ****ed.

Mind, I do think JV is a cock.
 

Ruslan

Podium Finisher
As for the way he is now, I reckon the bleach he used to put on his hair did something to him.
That seems to be the turning point ;). He was driving great and was a great personality. His driving then slacked off, and he then became "over-opinionated" to put it politely. He also disconnected with Canada. He shut down his restaurant in Montreal (New Town), didn't put out any other albums, got married and divorced, accused Quebec province of "morose ambiance", and moved to Europe with his new wife. It is hard to tell what trip these guys are on or what is going on in their heads, but they are going through life like everyone else, and sometimes their changes and adjustments as they get older are not for the better. Or to put it simply, sometimes perfectly likeable and charming people don't age well.
 

Ruslan

Podium Finisher
I don't agree, just because he got his wins and WDC with them doesn't mean he can't have an opinion, if he expresses it by saying they're "toast" then so what? I think they're ****ed.

Mind, I do think JV is a cock.
Well, I was a big fan of his......so his changes over time have always bothered me.

So, in the future on this forum....should I express my opinions "Villeneuve-like?"
 
Villenueve talking about Williams struggling and the challenges of that is fine. Saying they are toast....about the team that helped give him all 11 of his wins and a world championship.... that is kind of obnoxious.
as a TV pundit he has to report what is going on, in a sense he has a duty of care to the viewing public, so he must be honest. It's not as if he kept quiet Williams would flourish, they are toast and everybody knows it, as you mentioned Claire was very honest about it and admitted it herself
 

Izumi

Banned
Maybe his comments are a step over a simple reporting line. It is not a public secret and perhaps more than just simple coincidence when media are after a few salty headlines, they seems to always turn to him from all people.
 

Il_leone

Champion Elect
Nobody has mentioned 15 years ago at the Hungary GP, Alonso won this race and set his course to stardom by dominating the race. What many thought could potentially become the turning point for Schumacher/ Ferrari/ Bridgestone where they only managed 8th position and lapped behind all the Michelin runners. It appeared that Schumacher and Ferrari would lose their grip on both title respectively until it was discovered between Hungary and Monza that the Michelin tyres were able to run with bigger treads than the allowed limit which would only return to normal once the race was over

Back to Alonso. He has not won a race for 5 years and it looks like this probably will be his last Hungary GP.
 

RasputinLives

Doesn't look a bit like Jesus
Contributor
You are right to bring that race up Il_leone as it was a good one (and another first time winner at Hungary. Button and Hill are in that club too) however I always get a bit irritated when people talk about Ferrari being lapped as a big turning point. They were by no means lapped on pace that day. It was all circumstance. Not least that fact that Mark Webber's very wide and slow Jaguar meant Alonso was about half a lap clear before anyone could get after him.

Alonso's win that day was brilliant. The media hype on the Ferrari thing not so much.
 
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