Grand Prix 2015 Monaco Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

There is something - indeed, almost everything - different about the Monaco Grand Prix. Free practice will take place on Thursday, and F1 will take Friday off. The race will be 40km shorter despite having more laps than any other Grand Prix, and its winners will jump out of the car straight to the 'podium', which will be made up, simply, of a red carpet. Most strikingly, Bernie Ecclestone does not ask for a fee from the organisers in order to include the Grand Prix in his Championship.

The track is old: it has scarcely changed since 1929. The building of the Ranier III Swimming Stadium in 1972 still represents the biggest change that has ever been made to the course. It is very slow by Formula One standards - pole laps frequently average less than 100mph, and the shortening of the distance does not prevent the winning time pushing over one and three-quarter hours even when the red flag has not been thrown. Some of that is also because the Safety Car is so much more likely to appear.

The Safety Car doesn't prevent overtaking in Monaco too much more than the layout itself does - with the pole sitter having won every dry Grand Prix there since 2004, with 2008 standing as the only wet event in that period, won by Lewis Hamilton from third having planted the wall at exactly the right moment! Track position is vital; an undercut is difficult to pull off, and passing someone on dodgy tyres is staggeringly hard. Jenson Button and Fernando Alonso found in 2011 that the only overtaking that occurs in Monaco is when they were overtaken by events.

Winning at Monaco is an interesting achievement. It can certainly underline your reputation as a great (Senna's 6, Schumacher's 5 and Prost's 4), although there are some conspicuous absentees (Clark, Piquet, Mansell). Some find a groove there that they don't maintain elsewhere (Webber, Coulthard, Trintignant), and some have their solitary moment in the sun there (Trulli, Panis, Beltoise). Either way, those that win at Monaco will tell you it is the best circuit on the calendar to win on. Graham Hill's legend will always be founded upon his achievements here.

Who will be the 2015 winner? Following on from Catalan victory, Nico Rosberg will be heartened by his own form in the principality, having won dominantly in each of the last two years. He'll also enjoy that Monaco has never served as a favoured circuit to his team-mate Hamilton (whose only win came courtesy of said lucky walling, and has not finished ahead of a team-mate who actually completed the distance otherwise), and has certainly not favoured Ferrari (who have only won there 8 times from their 61 attempts, and have not taken a victory there since 2001). Although the differences at Monaco are often exaggerated, sometimes constructors do find the circuit to their liking if they focus more on aerodynamics than power, which suggests that this may be Red Bull's best chance to challenge Williams this season.

However, predicting what might happen on a Monaco race day is often a fools' game. It could well be a tedious procession, but it could well be full of drama - a good position can often be thrown into the ubiquitous Armco, the lack of new engines for this circuit could lead to one going pop or a frustrated move down at the Grand Hotel could lead to a front-wing buckling. Last year, lest we forget, Jules Bianchi achieved his one-and-only points finish in Formula One - the only points for the new-for-2010 teams in 5 years of trying. There have been many tedious processions here, but there has been 1970, 1982, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 1997, 2004, 2008 and 2011 too. Lets hope to add 2015 to that illustrious list.
 
Cheap victory for Rosberg, though I can't say I'm displeased that Hamilton didn't win.

Is it just me who disagrees with the steward's decision regarding Raikkonen and Ricciardo's collision? Ricciardo was too far behind, and should have backed out of it - he dive bombed the turn, and used the pit maneuver on Raikkonen - if I were Raikkonen, I'd be absolutely furious.

I'm not pleased with Red Bull this weekend - punting Raikkonen out of the way, and subtly enforcing team orders on Kyvat (even if they did give the place back in the last lap) - very shady weekend for Red Bull.

Very impressive racing skills for Verstappen this weekend. Love the way he sneaked past people by following Vettel, very clever. Good on the Lotus engineers pointing out to Grosjean how Verstappen was getting past everyone, and great job by Grosjean at shutting Verstappen down at the hairpin. Too bad Verstappen's race ended like that, he was doing really well for a Monaco debut, and thank goodness he was apparently uninjured, because that crash was a little scary. I'm embarrassed to say it, but Verstappen's collision with Grosjean is an exact repeat of what I did yesterday in F1 97. Bonus: I collided with Jos Verstappen's car.

Bottas... you totally screwed me this weekend, you ruined what could have been a very nice FF1 score. Thanks bud. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm not pleased with Red Bull this weekend - punting Raikkonen out of the way, and subtly enforcing team orders on Kyvat (even if they did give the place back in the last lap) - very shady weekend for Red Bull.....

It looked to me as though once the collision had happened team orders came into play in the hope that if Ricciardo had been given a 5 second penalty Kvyat would be able to slow down Raikkonen enough for it not to affect the placings. I think that Ricciardo should have been told to give the place back to Raikkonen.
 
What a fucking disgrace on Mercedes part. Lewis was wiping the floor with Nico, who was 22 seconds behind Hamilton when the safety car came out. It was obvious that the damage caused by that kid Verstappen, would not be cleaned up in 5 minutes, and with only 13 laps in the race to go....what the hell was Mercedes thinking about, to bring Lewis in.

Hamilton had complete control of that race, and the only thing that I was concerned with, was the safety car being called out. Both Maldonado and Verstappen had me worried in that regard, and Verstappen who I feared in his exuberance would make a move, which eventually he did, and cost Lewis a well deserved victory.
 
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So, let me get this right ... when the pit wall blokes were engaged in their "discussion", did nobody mention the fact that had Vettel pitted he would merely have emerged from pit lane to be bogged down in heaps of traffic?

Thus far this season Lewis has lost 2 out of 6 (33.33%) of the races for the same insane reason. Indeed, he has lost 2 out of 5 sure wins. For the conspiracy theorists, one gifted win to Vettel in a similarly bizarre strategy cock up can be regarded as a stupid mistake, two can be regarded as ... WTF?

FB asks a fair question.
 
Does anyone know who actually calls these strategy decisions at Mercedes? Because they fall woefully short. McLaren used to do similar bizare strategies. Is it Paddy? He moved over from Mclaren. Or do they have another gem up their sleeve? Brawn. What an error was losing him!
 
Problem was not that pit for Hamilton.
But there wasn't pit for Rosberg.

But if would be both pits in Mercedes then Vettel would have won.
 
In 2008 Hamilton was lucky, he damaged the car which, luckily for him, meant that he was in the right place at the right time. Today he was unlucky, the team made a mistake. It evens out.
 
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