Grand Prix 2011 Spanish Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

And so on to Spain, after the anti climax that was Turkey, it seems that no-one can stop Vettel as he marched to his 3rd win in 4 races and is in dominant form as we head to the Iberian peninsula. Despite the highest amount of overtakes since records began (126), a lot of people were questioning how authentic these overtakes were due to their artificial nature because of the DRS. The Spanish Grand Prix hasn't been known for its overtakes, indeed this is a track where more often than not, the driver who gets pole goes on to win so thats the race in the bag for Vettel. In 2010 the race was won by Mark Webber in the first of back to back wins from Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel. lewis Hamilton was on course for second until a wheel rim failure with two laps to go.

After a dominant performance in Turkey, Red Bull will be aiming at another one two in Spain, and on current form and given the nature of the track it is hard to see past the Red Bulls from extending their championship lead. However Ferrari and particularly Alonso have showed that Red Bull won't have it their own way and no doubt Alonso will be boosted by a capacity crowd all cheering him on. Mclaren planned to bring updates to Turkey but abandoned them and instead will introduce them this weekend to plug the ever increasing gap with Hamilton currently second in the drivers championship, over 30 points behind Vettel.

Mercedes were Jekyll and Hyde in Turkey and its not exactly hard to figure out who was who. Mercedes Rosberg has shown improved form recently and has been mixing with the Mclarens and Ferraris and with continued development, Mercedes will be confident of a top 5 finish this weekend.

Renault have seemed to have fallen back recently with Heidfeld and Petrov in the lower reaches of the points, their podium form of Australia and Malaysia now seems a distant memory and have now been overtaken by Mercedes in the development battle. In the midfield it is really tightening up as Toro Rosso have found a speed boost with Buemi claiming points in Turkey and Kobyashi coming from last on the grip to claim a top 10 position with Force India not holding the same level of competitiveness as the first few races with Di Resta's first DNF of his career.

While Team lotus didn't gain the jump that they hoped, they have high hopes that this weekend is the one where they establish themselves as a solid midfield runner while Virgin and HRT continue to fight it out over who gets the wooden spoon.

With the arguments over DRS raging on, no doubt we will see a circuit record of overtakes as cars breeze past each other down the main straight but if only one thing is certain it is that Red Bull will be right at the front barring major developments (or crashes)

For Galahads excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-catalunya/
 
I don't mean to wane in* and continue the Heidfeld-Petrov argument but i've always seen Heidfeld as one of the most competent drivers in F1, similar to Button. He will never stun you with his brilliance, but he use to constantly pop up in the top 6 back in his BMW days, whilst racing Kubica of all people. Petrov is unproven really. Definitely a great starter though.

*obviously i do, otherwise i wouldn't have
 
Anyway...to get back on topic after i shamelessly moved us off it. Do we know what is expected for tyre strategies this weekend. I haven't really heard anything mentioned on this. Does it look like a 3 stopper again?

Also, i think they really need to sort out the tyre allocation for this season. I'm all for cost reduction, but you shouldn't be trying to save money in an area that has become so vital. Why not give them just 1 extra set and say they will take it away after Q3 whether they use it or not.
 
I found this comment very interesting from Mark Webber in the post qualifying press conference.
Rather suprised that the 107% rule was a consideration in their tyre choice.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91597 It's a bit of a dangerous game with that tyre because, particularly if McLarens and Red Bulls want to put an option on in Q1, then we send maybe two or three teams home so that's maybe not ideal for some people. So we need to keep an eye on that.
 
Because johnnoble that would require common sense, something that F1 usually doesn't have

Exactly. Tyre strategy should start from the race. Qualifying has often been the most exciting part of F1, now, as Martin pointed out, there is no big crescendo at the end.
 
It's a fair point though sportsman.

If any of the top 3 teams put an option on in Q1, quite a few cars would fall foul of the 107% rule.

Luckily they don't particularly need to...yet.
 
I agree with everyone saying to increase the tyre allocation. I'd quite like all teams to have 3 sets of primes and 4 sets of options.
 
I found this comment very interesting from Mark Webber in the post qualifying press conference.
Rather suprised that the 107% rule was a consideration in their tyre choice.

Yeah. Interesting to see they want to look out for the other teams as well. F1 is one big family. :) In all seriousness though, this hard doesn't seem like it has improved anything. The point was that the harder tyre was an inconvenience because it didn't last much longer than the softs and was slower, so never really affected the strategy. Now, it lasts slightly longer, but is much slower. They need to get it into a window where, not only are teams deciding 2 stopper or 3, but whether to run 2 hards and a soft or 3 softs and a hard. That would make strategy even more interesting.
 
It's a fair point though sportsman.

If any of the top 3 teams put an option on in Q1, quite a few cars would fall foul of the 107% rule.

Luckily they don't particularly need to...yet.

Looking at your relative quali pace charts, both Virgin and Hispania would be out today.
 
Given the scarbs post linked earlier I stand by my earlier post. What Ferrari did was within an interpretation of the rules as they stood (as far as I can see, although I wasn't certain re: chad's post). The FIA should not get to choose which interpretation is correct the eve of the race weekend, if there is an ambiguity in the rules then it is their fault and they need to clarify with reasonable notice. After FP2 when set-up work has been done is not reasonable.

It is similar to the Schumacher/Monaco SC debate last year in my mind and as I remember most people took his side on that one! (What has happened to us!) I can accept a clarification after the race but if a team comes up with something within an interpretation of the rules, it should be allowed with reasonable notice of it being banned. (I realise the phrase reasonable notice itself is hard to interpret, the FIA *should* give a minimum limit for this)

p.s. looking forward to the first few laps tomorrow, hoping Hamilton and Button gain at least a place each and seeing how it develops from there!
 
Right finally caught up on Iplayer.

Well done Webber - I had a sneaking suspicion he'd come through this weekend.

I have a question for you on Maldonado who you have to say suddenly decided to remind us all today that he's a GP2 champion and not a pay driver. The thing is we keep hearing talk about how bad that Williams is and that there Lotus first target in the midfield battle so where did this 9th place come from? Is it a case of everyone else divering over tyre choices and Maldonado saying stuff this for a game of soldiers I'm just gonna try the novel idea of going as quick as I can and see where that leaves me tomorrow or is that Williams(when its actually running) a lot better car than its been given credit for.

Of course the third option is that Maldonado is a millions times better than anyone given him credit for and has dragged that Williams into Q3 by sheer force - however I think we need to see him do it a few more times before we can give him credit for it.
 
It makes you wonder where Barrichello could have been without his gearbox issues or was Maldanado geuninely quicker regardless
 
It's a fair point though sportsman.

If any of the top 3 teams put an option on in Q1, quite a few cars would fall foul of the 107% rule.

Luckily they don't particularly need to...yet.

Don't get me wrong. I think its a very considerate and sporting gesture from the top teams.
Pleased to see them taking that view. When you consider some of comments made by F1 figures the teams at least trying to give the back markers a fair chance of actually taking part in the race.
 
I think Williams had a good day and might've got 2 drivers in to Q3 had Rubo had the chance. I don't know how to explain it, whether it is a Williams improvement overall. I would find it difficult to put it down to Pastor though, who for me is nothing other than a paydriver at this level. It says a lot about where Williams are at that they chose him over Nico Hulkenberg who i think could be a great driver in the future/is a great driver.
 
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