Grand Prix 2011 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

It's a long summer and the key discussions aren't about the F1.

As we are in the middle of the summer break, the SKY/BBC deal continues to take precedence over any on track action we saw at Hungary, which is a shame as we saw a cracker of a race where Jenson Button eventually won his second race of the season ahead of Sebastian Vettel who extended his lead at the top of the championship yet again and surely it takes a miracle for anyone to overtake him now with less than half the races to go.

However with Belgium coming closer on the calender, it seems as if Red Bull has lost the dominance it held over the first half of the season with McLaren appearing to have the best all round package with 4 wins now this year with 2 for Button and 2 for Hamilton. Ferrari aren't far behind and are perhaps the best team in warm conditions but that remains to be seen after a series of damp and cold races. However it would still be a foolish person to bet against Red Bull going into the Belgian Grand Prix where the fast sweeping corners and technical hairpins will no doubt play to their advantage.

Spa Francorchamps is regarded (quite rightly) as the best driver circuit on the calendar with the famous circuit having many variations from its original form to the current version which was last changed in 2006 to incorporate the new pit area and final chicane, the final chicane wasn't popular as both fans and drivers miss the challenging bus stop chicane and the 'new' pit lane which can cause problems.

The grand prix has been famous for it's unpredictable weather with violent storms and half the track being dry and the other wet at the same time and completely random showers, the big example was 2008 where a late shower caught out the entire field and cost Kimi Raikkonen (and eventually Hamilton) the win. In 1998 torrential rain caused one of the worst starts in F1 history where half the field was wiped out on turn 1, eventually (after a restart) Damon Hill won for Jordan in a 1-2 with Ralf Schumacher second, Michael Schumacher famously nearly started a fight with David Coulthard after crashing into him trying to lap him.

Michael Schumacher has an impressive record at this track, winning his first race at the track in 1992 and taking several wins at the track with his last coming in 2002 where he took his seventh world championship. However at the moment it is unlikely that he will add to his list of wins with the Mercedes well off the pace of the leading trio of Ferrari, Mclaren and Red Bull.

Mercedes might find themselves behind Force India at the race as the track suits them down to a tee, in 2009 Fisichella took a surprise pole position and then took second place just finishing behind Raikkonen in the Ferrari (who always seemed to win at Spa when he was driving there)
Sutil and Di Resta have shown impressive pace recently, with both achieving season bests at the last few races and are closing the gap to the flagging Renault team who have really lost performance since the start of the season with Heidfeld and Petrov dissapointing.

On a personal level I am really looking forward to this race as I have weekend tickets and will be at Pouhon all weekend to bring you the best coverage from the track, (better than these Sky lot anyway)

For Galahad's excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
DRS is banned through Eua Rouge but it Quali the drivers will be closing it before entry and opening it as soon as the corner is finished.
 
DRS is banned through Eua Rouge but it Quali the drivers will be closing it before entry and opening it as soon as the corner is finished.

Does that sound like an effort to peg back the red bulls to anyone else?
 
DRS is banned through Eua Rouge but it Quali the drivers will be closing it before entry and opening it as soon as the corner is finished.

How lame is that?
I mean, back in the day that corner was challenging and drivers liked it because of it. Now with all the electronics and aero that corner is pretty easy to take. So why ban DRS in that corner? Give the drivers back that choice of: "hmmm, should i go full power thru there or should i go all the way with DRS and the throttle?"
 
Almost one week to go :D For some reason the big break last year dragged on forever and this year it hasn't......
 
For the moment: 25% chance of rain on Friday 45% Saturday 20% Sunday. And for the once that are going 20°C on Friday 18°C on Saturday and Sunday. Better take a sweater with you. ;)

And if it's any consolation it has rained here for almost everyday now in the past two months. So the chance of rain is pretty high.
 
How lame is that?
I mean, back in the day that corner was challenging and drivers liked it because of it. Now with all the electronics and aero that corner is pretty easy to take. So why ban DRS in that corner? Give the drivers back that choice of: "hmmm, should i go full power thru there or should i go all the way with DRS and the throttle?"

Because then HRTs will try and open the DRS through Eua Rouge and there will be a mighty crash LOL
 
The reason this thread has gone off topic so many times is because there has been no F1 to discuss!
And the latest weather reoport (as if we aren't sick of them already!): Rain all day saturday from 0700 and sunday 1300 onwards, moderate or heavy rain showers, 2.8mm of rain but yet again I have a small feeling that it will change yet again!
I might start a feature thread, Beat the Boss where you have to out guess me at the weather but all in dues course
 
McLaren looked good in the Wet in Hungary and good in changeable conditions at Canada. Anyone know the degradation rate(in laps) for the extreme wet tyre? The Inter lasts for maybe 10-12 laps,but in Canada I didn't really get a reading...
 
What I want is a proper wet race like britain 08 and china 09 - to truly assess the cars' and drivers' performance in full wet weather conditions, all race.
 
I want some F1 now. Please someone give me some F1.

The sad thing is, this is what it's going to be like after every race next year.
 
DRS at Belguim only at Kemmel Straight and only 1 DRS Zone :

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This will of course make it very easy, but let's see how it turns out...

Also as the FIA have not confirmed it officially I hope Maldonado's Engineer is misinformed.

Link : http://thef1times.com/news/display/04225
 
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