Head To Head Nico Rosberg vs Lewis Hamilton
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KekeTheKing Despite it being an aggressive move by Rosberg, I think he definitely has a right to feel aggrieved. Both drivers do.
Hamilton was right to go for the gap, but at that split second when Hamilton knew Rosberg was closing the door, the following driver, in this case Hamilton, is in control of whether or not they touch. Rather than staying on track & lifting off the throttle, Hamilton chose to go on the grass, lost control & both cars went out of the race.
Just like in Spa 2014 when it was a racing incident with the Mercedes team slightly blaming the following car for not avoiding a collision between teammates, for me the following car should have avoided a collision here.
Hamilton was right to go for the gap, but at that split second when Hamilton knew Rosberg was closing the door, the following driver, in this case Hamilton, is in control of whether or not they touch. Rather than staying on track & lifting off the throttle, Hamilton chose to go on the grass, lost control & both cars went out of the race.
Just like in Spa 2014 when it was a racing incident with the Mercedes team slightly blaming the following car for not avoiding a collision between teammates, for me the following car should have avoided a collision here.
Dario Resta
Podium Finisher
Well, Lewis could have gone left instead of right - the opportunity was there. Then he would have won. Christ on a bike, no blame was apportioned to either driver, quite rightly. They both made errors.
olegg
Race Winner
It is see after action.
I had made 2 slow (x5 times slower) video from broadcast:
Hamilton view
outter view
After second corner Hamilton and Rosberg were on the outside ("left").
But then Hamilton decided to try to the right.
And after this Rosberg who was engaging by switching of modes on the steering wheel
gone to the right
Lewywo4
Race Winner
ll_leone.....To think that Nico can be a soft touch in defending his position is absolute...nonsense! At times he can be absolutely ruthless, and reckless.
With such a massive speed advantage it was largely academic which side he chose to pass on. He was going to ease right by.
It's pretty clear Nico was going to have him off either way. He was in the wrong engine mode, he knew the place (and likely the race) was gone, and he pulled a Formula Ford move.
On even terms (same mode) you could say Nico was racing. With what actually transpired, (17 km/h and 180 hp deficit) it was an egregious block with only one intention.
I'm still trying to understand how a racing driver could be said to have committed an error when he's heading for an open piece of track with a 10 MPH speed advantage only to see it disappear instantaneously by a much slower, swerving, car.
Kewee
Race Winner
I still fail to understand how Rosberg wasn't penalised. The rules are very clear, a driver when defending must leave at least a full car width between himself and the edge of the track, Rosberg didn't. At the speed the accident unfolded Rosberg drove Hamilton off the track and it was intentional. We wouldn't be having this discussion in America, blocking is illegal and even a change of line as little as a quarter of a car width receives a warning followed by a heavy penalty if the offence is repeated. Their rules on this are in the interests of sportsmanship and safety and apply to road and street circuits as well as ovals. Blocking as we know it today never happened during the first 40 years of F1, it was simply too dangerous during those early years. It was a trend started by one driver in the '90's and others started to do the same, now it's the norm. The regulators made a half hearted attempt to improve the situation with the one move rule, it was never enough and eventually a driver will be killed which will be a dreadful experience for the driver that caused the accident and a terrible look for F1. The sooner they outlaw blocking totally the better. The art of drafting without the need of DRS and other aids would return and we would see an increase in quality racing and overtaking.
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rufus_mcdufus
Champion Elect
I'm surprised the speed differential was only measured at 17km/h. It looks greater than that.
F1Brits_90
World Champion
As you probably know guessed from my posts over the many months I've been on here. Im a big Hamilton along with the other Brits on the grid, so im going to be as unbiased as I can
But Rosberg has to take as much blame for the accident as Lewis if not abit more possibly 60/40. Although I will admit that Lewis Hamilton let the mist cloud his judgement no whether that was adrieline or pressure who knows but he forgot what brundle always says you cant win it on the 1st lap but you can lose it & shouldve been more patient
But just like Beligium & Monaco. Mr nice guy has just releaved once again as mr ruthless because Rosberg was much slower out of T3 apparently Harvesting & Lewis got a huge run on him. Nico got desperate illegally chopped him off because what was he doing we all know he has to leave a cars width & he went so unnaturally right he was nearly on the grass himself. There not a chance on this earth he was doing that naturally because you dont on a short straight like that zig zag along the road
But 1 thing we all know this is suzuka 89 or Istanbul 10 because there relationship was strained but this is will now damage it beyond repair as there no coming back
But Rosberg has to take as much blame for the accident as Lewis if not abit more possibly 60/40. Although I will admit that Lewis Hamilton let the mist cloud his judgement no whether that was adrieline or pressure who knows but he forgot what brundle always says you cant win it on the 1st lap but you can lose it & shouldve been more patient
But just like Beligium & Monaco. Mr nice guy has just releaved once again as mr ruthless because Rosberg was much slower out of T3 apparently Harvesting & Lewis got a huge run on him. Nico got desperate illegally chopped him off because what was he doing we all know he has to leave a cars width & he went so unnaturally right he was nearly on the grass himself. There not a chance on this earth he was doing that naturally because you dont on a short straight like that zig zag along the road
But 1 thing we all know this is suzuka 89 or Istanbul 10 because there relationship was strained but this is will now damage it beyond repair as there no coming back
Rosberg was entitled to move once to defend and started his defence before Hamilton was alongside.
How often do we see collisions because a quicker car gets caught by the person in front braking earlier? Hamilton had the advantage of knowing Rosberg was going much slower thanks to flashy lights.
How often do we see collisions because a quicker car gets caught by the person in front braking earlier? Hamilton had the advantage of knowing Rosberg was going much slower thanks to flashy lights.
olegg
Race Winner
And
Hamilton deserves to be disciplined - Stewart
It is strange.
I could wait it from Lauda.
But Stewart.....
Hamilton deserves to be disciplined - Stewart
It is strange.
I could wait it from Lauda.
But Stewart.....
Which gave him even more incentive to make a move.
Rosberg was fiddling with his (engine mode) knob coming out of T3 and made a desperation block.
I'm just surprised it was sanctioned by the Stewards. Probably shouldn't be considering who was involved though. (there's history)
Kewee
Race Winner
Hamberg ..... Rosberg was entitled to defend and yes he did start his defence before Hamilton was alongside, but Hamilton had such a run on him his wing and front wheels were alongside when Rosberg crowded him off the circuit. Hamilton was committed and it was too late for him to back out and Rosberg failed to leave a car width between himself and the perimeter of the track as the rules state he should have. The mistake Hamilton made was not allowing for the fact that Rosberg has a history of forcing other drivers off the circuit. He'll never trust him in the future.
olegg
Race Winner
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olegg
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It is best answer to Stewart
F1Brits_90
World Champion
Something ive been wondering since I delayed watching the race. I wonder whether nico past all the bluster & ego needs at this level that nico deep down knows that abit like prost & senna. he's not necessarily the slower driver but nows he doesn't have the pace to beat Lewis in a outright straight fight & in the heat thought if he goes past ive lost the race.
I think it's a near certainty that both drivers would have seen leading the first lap as the only victorious position.
Rosberg has already said that after making the move in T1 he thought he had the race won. Which is why it's hardly surprising he would say "Oh no you don't!" instead of watching Lewis cruise by into T4.
Rosberg has already said that after making the move in T1 he thought he had the race won. Which is why it's hardly surprising he would say "Oh no you don't!" instead of watching Lewis cruise by into T4.
Nobody is telling me anything I don't already know but this isn't switching lanes on a motorway, it's racing.
Car in front stops car behind getting in front by closing the gap. If Hamilton was alongside when Nico started the move fine, but he wasn't.
Yes Nico made the error which made him slower but where in the rules does it say slower car can't defend his position unless he is being lapped?
I get the argument that Nico should have known that by being slower and closing the gap Lewis would have to take avoiding action, but equally Lewis took a chance knowing that if Nico defended he would have nowhere to go.
I'm glad Lewis had a go, I'm glad Nico didn't roll over. I'm glad it wasn't a Tarmac runoff.
It was a shit result, but racing incident all the same.
Car in front stops car behind getting in front by closing the gap. If Hamilton was alongside when Nico started the move fine, but he wasn't.
Yes Nico made the error which made him slower but where in the rules does it say slower car can't defend his position unless he is being lapped?
I get the argument that Nico should have known that by being slower and closing the gap Lewis would have to take avoiding action, but equally Lewis took a chance knowing that if Nico defended he would have nowhere to go.
I'm glad Lewis had a go, I'm glad Nico didn't roll over. I'm glad it wasn't a Tarmac runoff.
It was a shit result, but racing incident all the same.
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