Grand Prix 2018 British Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

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  1. racecub

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    Are you referring to the deliberate swipe at Baku? It was deliberate. And that was my answer to you as to why I think Vettel would do a deliberate act against a competitor but Kimi wouldn’t. I’ve never seen Kimi act like that....haven’t seen the majority of drivers act like that in actual fact.
    So just to clear up a point here. I don’t think Kimi in any way did that to Hamilton deliberately. Which is what I said at the start.
     
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  3. RasputinLives

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    Point 2
     
  4. racecub

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    What are you talking about point2?
     
  5. Chasz

    Chasz Points Scorer

    Point 2 = Vettel is evil

    But to be fair to racecub, he is recalling an actual event and not constructing some fantasy against him.
     
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  6. RasputinLives

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    Yes he did do that. I'm just not sure how relevent it is to Hamilton suggesting Kimi hit him on purpose. It has taken the conversation away from discussion regarding Lewis bad reaction to not winning on Sunday though. I guess that was the point.
     
  7. racecub

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    RasputinLives Why should it be relevant to Hamilton suggesting Kimi hit him on purpose? I specifically said I didn’t think Kimi did it on purpose when I wrote a little bit about my weekend at Silverstone, after which I was asked by Bushi....
    “And why do you think it's Vettel's style to drive into another car on purpose? Because he was a Schumacher fan?”
    So I answered him giving evidence.
    You just made up all that Vettel is evil stuff.
     
  8. RasputinLives

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    You were asked that though after you'd stated 'its Vettel's style to drive into other drivers' which was completely not related to the discussion in question and was you dangling a fishing rod out there to get a bite to divert away from the subject at hand which was being a bit of a non after the race. I guess you had the choice between him or Button. ;)

    I admire your devotion to Lewis. I really do. But come on be honest with us. If any other driver had stomped off from the grid interviews and then tried to claim that an obvious driving error had been a deliberate tactic to take him out you'd be saying they were being childish. Come on. You can admit it to us. It doesn't make Lewis any less of a great driver or you less of a true fan but it was a dick move wasn't it? :)
     
  9. racecub

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    The subject in hand was the British GP. I wrote in that thread about my experiences of it which I believe Im entitled to do, it’s not off topic. Kimi took Lewis off right in front of my stand. I saw it happen, so I commented.
    I was not ‘fishing’ . And I’m not a troll, which you also called me recently. I’m getting tired of it. Just because you don’t share the same views doesn’t mean I’m a troll.
    And why do you keep bringing up Button? If you’re keen for things to stay on topic I’d say that’s miles off.

    I’m not devoted to Hamilton, he’s my favourite current driver, I’ve followed him since long before F1 , that’s it, Ive had other favourite drivers, he’s my current one, why does that upset you?
    I ve already given my views on Hamilton leaving the grid in that same post about my trip to the GP. Did you actually read it?
     
  10. RasputinLives

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    Yeah it must be me. All your doing is saying your opinion and I should respect that. I completley and totally apologise.

    Send my love to Cookinflatsix.
     
  11. cider_and_toast

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    Mod chat.

    Hope the sun isn't raising the temperature too much in here. Time to move the conversation down a touch folks it's getting a touch personal.

    Regards

    CaT the Mod.
     
  12. Angel

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    Now look what you boys did, you made CAT cross :o
     
  13. RasputinLives

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    Apologies. My steam should be vented elsewhere.
     
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  14. Bushi

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    Was it an action to take him out of the race? No, it wasn't!
    Hence why I said in exaggeration that Hamilton lost his tooth fillings in that incident.

    I agree that Kimi would never give a nudge to someone else, unless you are a photographer and are stepping on his bag.;) His emotions don't run that high, the guy barely laughed after he won the WC. Vettel is an emotional bloke and can act like that on track and on radio. But like I said he would never drive someone out of a race for his benefit.
     
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  15. I agree and I think that we need to put what happened at Baku into context: Hamilton did something that was unsportsmanlike and very very dangerous in slowing down on purpose at the restart of the race given how long the Baku straight is (I personally think that all rolling starts at Baku are very dangerous), Vettel reacted and that wasn't nice and not very sportsmanlike but he didn't try to put Hamilton in danger, it's actually the other way round, Hamilton put all the other drivers in danger to gain a very little advantage, Vettel never did any harm to Hamilton, he just did what any self respecting racing driver 20 years ago would have done (the ones who wouldn't nudge an opponent for such foul play are the ones who would have rammed into him to take him out). I know that it's nice to have such a romantic view of F1 but that's how it used to work, and the reason is very simple: if you have an accident on the Baku straight and have 15 cars behind you travelling at 350 km/h chances are that you might lose your life. IMHO Hamilton had to be punished for the very same reason that Vettel had to be punished. All that to say that I don't really think that Hamilton should take the moral high ground for what happened at Baku last year
     
  16. The Pits

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    Uh oh!!!
     
  17. The Artist.....

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    I am no Hamilton fan, but Vettel’s actions in Baku were all of his own making. Hamilton did not brake-test Vettel (even though initially it looked like he might have done), but Vettel’s perception was that he was slower through there than normal (actually it turned out that Vettel was just sleeping). What followed was absolutely unacceptable - and Vettel should probably have faced a ban for it.

    Maldonado did the same in Spa to Hamilton several years ago, and was rightly castigated.

    However, I would park this discussion right here.
     
  18. cider_and_toast

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    cough British GP Thread cough cough ;)
     
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  19. RasputinLives

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    I'm sure I said that a few posts back ;)
     
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    Meanwhile, what was all the griping about the track being bumpy? Now Silverstone has promised to resurface the track for 2019. Why? There won't be a race in 2020 or are they doing it to keep the Moto GP boys happy?
     
  21. cider_and_toast

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    Or do Silverstone (BRDC or whoever owns it now) think that Liberty will come begging once the deadline nears to ask them to come back into the fold on better terms because F1 needs a British race etc etc.
     

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