Rubens Barrichello

Now here's a driver who polarises opinion. A really nice bloke or a bitter man who should have grown a pair at Ferrari instead of bitching about it after he left. The most experienced driver ever in F1 but now, perhaps, past his sell by date? A brilliant car sorter who helped Jenson Button realise his title ambitions at Brawn or someone who failed to take an opportunity when it came his way?

Rubens Barrichello:

314 GP starts
11 wins (No. 25 in the list of GP winners - ahead of Ronnie Petersen but behind Alan Jones)
14 poles
17 fastest laps

Everyone's favourite No.2? The best choice Williams could could have made to lead there team or would they be better off without him?
 
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Slyboogy said:
Not sure Barrichello can take the credit for all the championship winning cars, 5 of then where at Ferrari at a time where you can spend and test daily and Ferrari was already a championship winning team/car before he joined. Brawn had the jump on everyone due to developing half a season early, and I doubt he came up with the main asset the "double diffuser".

I am starting to find his "driver development" thing blown way out of proportion. Drivers don't build the cars, engineers do. All a driver can do is explain what happens to the car with a certain update or set up, and I am speaking from experience.

But he might not be a bad technical advisor, a role that Schumacher played in 2007-2009 for Ferrari. (was it technical advisor?)

Or he could be a driver Coach.

PS. Just felt like a rant LOL
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The only time Ferrari have won a championship since 1979 with a car that wasn't developed by Rubens Barrichello was in 2007. If he was doing so little of the work why did they keep upping his wage to keep him? He was certainly part of the team that made such a dominant car so I'll stand by that one. Also I don't think it was a massive coincidence that Jenson's form in 2009 dropped off at exactly the same time as Rubens stopped sharing his car set-ups with him.

Hulkenberg's pole in Brazil 2010? Rubens set up and advised Nico exactly when to go out.

As for his judgement on tyres and weather conditions I could give you countless examples from poles with Jordan to drives for Stewart and wins for Ferrari.

In answer to the Honda Earth car and the Williams of last year - you can't polish a terd.
 
FB said:
Honda made dog after dog with little improvement through the season and the Brawn was fast straight out of the box so what was there to do?
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Sorry FB but just read that. yes the Brawn was quick straight out of the box - the reason being that they sacrificed the whole of 2008 to get the car ready - hence why Ross Brawn stumped up his own cash to get the team back in when Honda pulled out because he knew they had a winning car - hence why Merc agreed to supply the engines. Who do you think helped them develop the car through 2008? It wasn't Sakon Yamamoto was it.
 
True, I always tend to forget the development work that drivers put into next years car during the current season.
 
RasputinLives said:
The only time Ferrari have won a championship since 1979 with a car that wasn't developed by Rubens Barrichello was in 2007. If he was doing so little of the work why did they keep upping his wage to keep him? He was certainly part of the team that made such a dominant car so I'll stand by that one. Also I don't think it was a massive coincidence that Jenson's form in 2009 dropped off at exactly the same time as Rubens stopped sharing his car set-ups with him.

Hulkenberg's pole in Brazil 2010? Rubens set up and advised Nico exactly when to go out.

As for his judgement on tyres and weather conditions I could give you countless examples from poles with Jordan to drives for Stewart and wins for Ferrari.

In answer to the Honda Earth car and the Williams of last year - you can't polish a terd.
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1999 Ferrari won the constructors title, so yes they won a championship before Barrichello arrived and could have won the WDC is Schumacher was there for that full season.

That's the first time I have heard of Barrichello not giving his set ups to Button, his form improved as has been stated was when he changed brake suppliers.

Honda made a massive improvement in 2008 and in 2009 when Brawn was on board, Honda you can say went backwards with Barrichello onboard.
 
Slyboogy said:
1999 Ferrari won the constructors title, so yes they won a championship before Barrichello arrived and could have won the WDC is Schumacher was there for that full season.

That's the first time I have heard of Barrichello not giving his set ups to Button, his form improved as has been stated was when he changed brake suppliers.

Honda made a massive improvement in 2008 and in 2009 when Brawn was on board, Honda you can say went backwards with Barrichello onboard.
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Fine - I'll hire him and you hire Takuma Sato(who was at Honda before Rubens) and we'll see who comes out on top :p

I'm only repeating what others in the game have said before me though - not my words Sly but the words of Top Gear magazine.
 
BAR Honda - 2005 season

Jenson Button - 37 points - 10 points finishes - 3 podiums

Takuma Sato - 1 point

and I think you'll find that overtake whilst pretty good had a lot to do with tyres.

anyways thats for the Sato thread!
 
I don't know why you put in the 2005 season?

I was merely joshing about Sato, but his 2007 was a good one, the major underdogs Super Aguri where that season. Never said he was better than Barrichello.

It was still a good overtake, I haven't seen many go round the outside of someone into a chicane, even with the shot Pirelli tyres.
 
From what I'm reading the option is there if he wants it and to be honest I think Rubenio would be very competitive in the series like Mario Andretti and Emerson Fittapaldi were at the end of their careers. I actually think they both of those guys were older when they won the Indycar championship - in fact Mario scored his last Indycar race win at the age of 53!

The only thing that might stop him though is of course the prospect of driving on ovals and after what happened last year, if you're a family man, you'd have to think really hard before deciding to take the risk.
 
RasputinLives said:
From what I'm reading the option is there if he wants it and to be honest I think Rubenio would be very competitive in the series like Mario Andretti and Emerson Fittapaldi were at the end of their careers. I actually think they both of those guys were older when they won the Indycar championship - in fact Mario scored his last Indycar race win at the age of 53!

The only thing that might stop him though is of course the prospect of driving on ovals and after what happened last year, if you're a family man, you'd have to think really hard before deciding to take the risk.
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He'd be one of the best drivers on the street courses without a doubt. The only quality drivers in the current field are Franchitti, Power, Dixon and Kanaan - Franchitti being almost Barrichello's age!

The oval courses might be a problem because it's a different driving style to learn at Rubens's age; I don't doubt that he possesses the requisite cojones (remember Hungary and the wall?). Then again if he knows how to turn left...
 
>However, with there only being four ovals in IndyCar's 2012 schedule there is a possibility he could conclude a deal that sees him only take part in road or street course events.

Four ovals...Will Power's a lock to win the championship this season then. A shame because the road course races mostly suck, but I can see why they've gone that way.
 

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