Grand Prix 2025 British Grand Prix

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And just like that, it's time to go to Silverstone. Despite the UK being in the middle of a heatwave the forecast says that we could have rain at the weekend. Well, it is summer...

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Rather than give you some run down of the current World Championship, or a review of the last race, I'm going to take you back to 1981 and my first visit to a Formula One Grand Prix.

Back then the race used to switch between Silverstone and Brands Hatch. 1981 was a Silverstone year and this meant the race was on a Saturday. My dad had got hold of some corporate hospitality tickets and we drove up to Northamptonshire that morning from his house in Walton-on Thames. It was hot and dry, and as Silverstone (then) was flat and VERY fast, the turbo charged Renaults of Arnoux and Prost were on the front row. Excitingly for F1 fans Brabham chose this race to show off their BMW turbocharged machine, and Lotus rocked up with the twin chassis 88B. Once again trying to convince the scrutineers that chassis is both a singular and plural so the car was legal. It never made it past practice.

1981 was the first year post sliding skirts and the cars were very stiff, in an attempt to bring back some sort of ground effect. At the end of the fifth lap Gilles Villeneuve bounced his Ferrari over the kerbs at Woodcote, lost control, and took out current World Champion Alan Jones, and Andrea de Cesaris, in the McLaren. The turbo cars, at that time, were very fragile and slowly the Renaults and the remaining Ferrari of Didier Pironi consumed themselves. This left John Watson in the McLaren MP4 (now called the McLaren MP4/1) in the lead of the race.

McLaren, after having been in the doldrums for a few seasons, were paired up by Marlboro with Ron Dennis and his Project 4 race team at the end of 1980, much to the disgust of McLaren team founder (along with Bruce McLaren) Teddy Mayer. The MP4 was quite a radical car as it was the first to have a fully carbon fibre monocoque (CF had been used in F1 since the 1970s). It still used the ubiquitous Cosworth DFV engine, with McLaren not moving to turbo engines until 1983.

Watson duly won, 40 seconds ahead of Carlos Reutemann in the Williams, with Jacques Laffite in the Ligier Matra taking third. A few stats from the race:
  • 30 cars were entered
  • 24 qualified for the race
  • The starting grid at Silverstone in 1981 went round the last corner and through the Woodcote chicane
  • Four tyre manufacturers were supplying rubber to the teams
  • Six different engine suppliers were present - three turbo, and three non-turbo (excluding the BMW)
  • Five former and future World Champions were racing.
  • Arnoux's pole time in 1981 was 1 min 11". In 1983 he took pole with a time of 1 min 9.5". In 1985 Rosberg set pole at 1 min 5.6" :o The circuit layout was changed by the time they went back in 1987
After the race had finished it took three hours to get out of the car park. It then took an hour to get home!

Here's the schedule on Sky. I believe it is also live on C4, should you want to live recklessly.

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Well done to Norris, fantastic to have another British winner at the British GP You could see how much it meant to him. Anyone who survived and saw the flag in conditions like that deserves credit; it was exactly like the weather I had from hot sun to torrential rain

Piastri might feel it was harsh, but hopefully with hindsight he’ll understand that what’s acceptable in the dry isn’t in the wet. That Verstappen onboard was pretty damning with the spray & lack of visibility, it could so easily have been a Webber Heikki Valencia 2010 moment, with Max ramming into his rear wing & taking them both out.

Absolutely delighted for Hulkenberg. If anyone deserved a podium, it was him, a hugely talented driver but never got the breaks & can lay the ghosts of brazil 2012 to rest. & Maybe the F1 movie isn’t so unrealistic after all 😉. although he’s no longer “the greatest F1 driver never to stand on a podium.”

The strategists confused me a lot, i was Watching it thinking: why did so many teams put on the hard tyre. & If even I knew and people like Bernie Collins, who are far cleverer than me, surely knew that on a circuit like that you need tyre temperature to survive & softs were the only choice. Without tyre temp, you’re doomed.

Hamilton will be pretty pleased with that race 4th because that car look quick & a nightmare at times. couldve been worse, he couldve been leclerc. who lurched from 1 disaster to the next
 
I tell you something Audi will be happy because Binotto and Wheatley are definitely moving the team forward ..the latter said it was his team which I see a bit of a dig at Red Bull in his Channel 4 interview.

I hope Hulkenberg can seriously lead Audi to podiums

Haas hitting each other ..oh dear
 
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As for F1 it the wet. It's getting beyond a joke now. The fact that the tyre supplier who has had 14 years experience of working in F1 and still can't manufacturer working rain tyres says all you need to know. They may as well drop the red flag if a Marshall spills his cuppa on the run off nowadays.
its been disaster its annoyed me for years . bridgestone were only in f1 from 12 years. & there wet tyres were brilliant Hamilton raced in far worse at the start of his career. the decision to not have a tyre war. has really affected the sport because if they had competition this wouldve been sorted by 2013/2014.
 
We can only hope.
It's 3 wins to just get ahead with both Mclarens not scoring and assuming neither Russell or the Ferrari get ahead of him as well


If it was dry I think it might have been 3rattoday at best because the skinny wi lng was going to kill his tyres through Becketts as proven
 
Piastri has been my favorite driver since he won a Sprint in his rookie year. I have never seen anything like the penalty for braking after the safety car lights when off. A lot of you think the penalty was correct. If so, 10 seconds was awfully harsh. If he deserved it, I think 5 seconds would have been reasonable. It certainly would have made for a better race, with Piastri in the final mix.
 
Given that Verstappen got 10 seconds for throwing a tantrum and driving into Russell in Spain then I'd agree it should have been 5.
 
I enjoyed that, entertaining from beginning to end. Bernie's sprinkler idea wasn't so crazy was it?
If they'd been able to run a full wet it would have been ace.

The best thing about racing in the wet is that it throws all of the computer predictions up in the air and you're left with the feel of the car under the drivers butt cheeks, gut instinct and luck.
 
couple more points from the weekend.

piastri is found innocent in the dry but is guilty in the wet. as its not the braking that the problem its the visibility. as hulkenberg said in cooldown room he nearly crashed in to stroll such was the consertia effect down the pack

hulkenberg is probably the most on merit shock podium we've had for a while. because their was just no luck. his car worked in all conditions & he did all the right things at the right time, he didnt try to outwit the radar or 2nd guess how quickly the track would dry. & got his reward for that.

Which is why Russell’s comments annoyed me. Saying he “had to gamble to win” and that McLaren could afford to be conservative misses the point. Most of the time, playing it safe is how you get strong results in the rain. If a Sauber can finish 3rd & Hamilton who struggled gets 4th, then Russell could’ve easily been 2nd or 3rd with the right calls.

As for Tsunoda, is it time for him for a change? I do have sympathy given the chaos of that Red Bull second seat, he’s finished dead last in the last 2 races, and 3 of the last 5. That’s just not good enough. The issue is: who replaces him? tsunoda already felt like the last resort, Hadjar / Lindblad aren’t ready. So it feels like experience is the only option—right now, that only really leaves Bottas?. And while he was never a star. more like perez at his best. it’s hard to see how things could get worse
 
Having seen Hulkenberg 's near miss
. There is no doubt Piastri deserves a penalty.

Incidentally did anyone catch Stroll calling his car a piece of 💩
 
When it is time to run full wets, it's time to red flag the race due to very heavy rain.
i did a thread about it 9 years ago :o


i think things have improved since then. we have a more 'let them race' attitude last years brazilian qualifying & gp for example. as it was ridiculous that they used to have a safety car running around until we had a drying line

im conflicted about wet running. because i remember watching spa 98. or fuji 2007 & silverstone 2008 (that Hamilton drove in). both races that would be red flagged now or wouldnt start. & i hear alot in the last few days, that safety car was brought out on sunday because of aquaplaning & no visitabilty. so no matter how good the wet tyres are it wouldve happened

But it does make me wonder: were we wrong back in the 90s and 2000s to let those races run? Or are we too cautious now. because i remember Martin brundle saying in commentary "you dont drive with your eyes, you drive with your ears"
 
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This is why Pirelli must provide a proper rain tyre to earn the contract

Oh yeah someone needs to punch Stroll for what he said post race
 
This is why Pirelli must provide a proper rain tyre to earn the contract
I've thought that. & ive given pirelli alot of stick over the years. but i was reading that apparently the wet tyres are the problem but because they are too good now, its almost a trade off between aquaplaning & visibility

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