F1 Italian Grand Prix: Mitch Evans calls out F1 for double standards

[Brogan]

Titch, don't blame Pirelli.

They have produced exactly what Ecclestone told them to - a tyre which only lasts 1/3 to 1/2 of a race.
He believes it produces more exciting racing and puts on more of a show.

With regards to providing guidance on pressures and camber angles, this is nothing new and has been going on for years.
If the rules surrounding those were removed and there were a lot more tyre failures (with the inevitable consequences), I'm sure people would be blaming Pirelli...

Setting limits on tyre usage is no different to all of the various safety aspects the designers have to work around when designing the car.

 

[RasputinLives]

Also teams have been designing cars around tyres for decades as well.

 

[Titch]

I take the point that because of safety issues teams have to follow the guidance given by the tyre manufacturer, and that the tyres that are supplied are the way they are because of misguidance from the top. However if teams really are designing cars around tyres, how sad is that? Racing cars should be designed for speed, with brilliant engines and aerodynamics and at the sharp end of development, tyre manufactures should be designing tyres that complement that sort of car, tyres that go fast and don't blow up.

None of which has anything to do with Mitch Evans I know.

 

[RasputinLives]

So Pirreli should design different tyres for each specific team?

 

[Titch]

However Mitch Evans has a point, if Hamilton, Rosberg and Mercedes weren't punished, why was he? Which puts me in a difficult position, should they all be punished for breaking rules. Rules are rules, and even though I think that this situation and rule should never have been allowed to develop they still contravened technical regulations.
So I don't know, perhaps no punishment for any of them and a re-think on what a tyres job actually is.

 

[Titch]

So Pirreli should design different tyres for each specific team?

Why not?

 

[Brogan]

However Mitch Evans has a point, if Hamilton, Rosberg and Mercedes weren't punished, why was he?

GP2 doesn't use tyre blankets, F1 does.

When the tyres on the Mercedes cars were measured in the blankets, they passed the minimum requirement and were legal.

It was only when they were measured on the grid later, after they had been removed from the blankets and cooled down that the pressures dropped.

The tyres on GP2 cars are at a constant temperature as they are not artificially warmed and therefore there should be no pressure drop on the grid.

 

[RasputinLives]

Titch

Well apart from the cost implication - which would be huge - what happens when one teams tyre works better than anothers? Thus said team gains a massive advantage?

What happens when one of the bigger paid teams bungs Pirreli a big wad of cash to concentrate their team producing their tyre?

There is so much time for the times to gain in tyre wear that millions and millions of pounds use to be invested in it. Ferrari practically propped up Bridgestone in order to gain a 'special relationship' with them in order to monoplise the tyre and give them advantage.

 

[Titch]

But surely that is like saying ,what happens when one teams brilliant engineer designs a car that works better than any other car on the grid, and they gain a massive advantage. The engineer isn't put to work for the common good of the rest of F1.
For sure it would be expensive, when was anything in F1 cheap.
If each team had a dedicated tyre specialist, affiliated to a manufacturer, who designed tyres for "his" car, it would have to be better than driving around on a tyre that only suits some of the cars on any given weekend?
Until F1 decides that there is only one car manufacturer and one engine supplier, why have we got a one tyre suits all policy?

 

[RasputinLives]

So basically what your saying is that each team should design, develop and produce there own tyres?

You do realise that will just lead to the multi million pound teams getting further ahead and the little teams either falling away or folding? We'd end up with a grid of about 6 cars.

Also its completly unprecedented in any form of motorsport ever. From the begining of the sport up until now from motorbike to rally car. A couple of tyre manufacturers yes but everyone producing their own? Never been done.

 

[Titch]

See that sort of negativity is what is holding the sport back.

Of course I know it's not possible in reality, but all teams should have access to greater tyre choice. Why have we got only one tyre supplier? Why have we got a stupid rule that says all teams MUST spend a certain amount of time on a certain type of tyre in every race. What has that got to do with racing?

 

[RasputinLives]

You can't blame the tyre supplier for that and its been very rare that F1 has had anything other than 1 tyre supplier mainly because the companies just don't think its worth it. Do a job well and no one cares, something goes wrong and everyone rips you a new one.

The tyre rule was brought in because there was a huge uproar (from fans) that the racing was dull and that one race in canada showed that having varying types that wore out made it exciting. So they brought it in.

Then tyres started exploding everywhere and there was uproar by the fans so they made the more durable.

Fans then went into uproar that it made racing dull again (boo sebastian boo they said) so they decided to make them less durable again.

True to form this meant that tyres started blowing up again so to pre-empt the uproar Pirelli decided to slap a minimum tyre pressure and lap length on the things so everyone was clear on how to use them. However this has created uproar with the fans......

At this rate it will be impossible to get one tyre producer in F1 that'll own the multiple that you want.

 

[soccerman17]

Also teams have been designing cars around tyres for decades as well.

I don't understand why people would complain about this. Give them good tires and they'll design the car around tires to make them work even better. Give them shit tires and they'll design the car around the tires to make them not as shit.

 

[snowy]

It's surprising no one has ever thought of making a tyre that doesn't stink...

They could call it the shitless tyre.

 

[olegg]

I glad to see such consensus in this voting