Caterham (formerly Lotus)

cider_and_toast

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I can see it now, Autosport on Thursday, Caterham to find a second a lap increase with next up grade. "We will get better" says Tony.
 

sportsman

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And still they delude themselves.
http://www.caterhamf1.com/news/2012/australian-grand-prix Riad Asmat, Caterham Group Chief Executive: "We have a great deal of very good news to take out of today. Obviously we did not want to finish like that, but after both Heikki and Vitaly negotiated their way around the first corner clash we were quickly up to speed with the likes of Force India, Williams and even Ferrari, and that's very encouraging for next week in our first home race of the season in Malaysia and the season ahead. We have work to do to make sure we cure the problems we encountered today, but we will do just that and come back even more strong in Sepang."
 

teabagyokel

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To be fair, last year they were much better in Sepang than they were in Melbourne. Equally, they were in exactly the same position in Melbourne!
 

KekeTheKing

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Anybody notice that Alexander Rossi was named the Caterham test driver? According to AUTOSPORT he'll be driving in several Friday practices throughout the year. Not sure if this has any effect on van der Garde.
 

Viscount

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Both of them will get to do drive some practice sessions, but with the amount of sponsorship money van der Garde reportedly has, I won't be surprised if he's in one of the Caterham race seats before the end of the season.
 

canis

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Think they may start to need that money, there are reports about currently that the case against Team Lotus (now Caterham) brought by Force India for the use of their IP in last years car has been decided against Caterham. This is the civil case brought between the teams in the UK. There is an ongoing criminal case in Italy against the owners, designers and the wind tunnel facilities they use over the same matter. The whole thing has now been referred to the FIA for a ruling as it has been found that Team Lotus ran a car last year which used Force India IP on it due to the details being found at the wind tunnel facilities which both teams use.

This could go badly for Caterham...
 

RasputinLives

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Anybody notice that Alexander Rossi was named the Caterham test driver? According to AUTOSPORT he'll be driving in several Friday practices throughout the year. Not sure if this has any effect on van der Garde.
While I welcome this I'm surprised as Rossi was not named in their GP2 team! From what Josh has said earlier it looked like Van Der Garde was set for the race seat until Petrov scraped the money in and beat him too it. Seems to me that Rossi was always surpose to be thier reserve driver but now they have this Van Der Garde situation so their sharing it.

Think they may start to need that money, there are reports about currently that the case against Team Lotus (now Caterham) brought by Force India for the use of their IP in last years car has been decided against Caterham. This is the civil case brought between the teams in the UK. There is an ongoing criminal case in Italy against the owners, designers and the wind tunnel facilities they use over the same matter. The whole thing has now been referred to the FIA for a ruling as it has been found that Team Lotus ran a car last year which used Force India IP on it due to the details being found at the wind tunnel facilities which both teams use.

This could go badly for Caterham...
That'll explain why Trulli had to go and Petrov is in!
 

teabagyokel

#dejavu
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Think they may start to need that money, there are reports about currently that the case against Team Lotus (now Caterham) brought by Force India for the use of their IP in last years car has been decided against Caterham. This is the civil case brought between the teams in the UK. There is an ongoing criminal case in Italy against the owners, designers and the wind tunnel facilities they use over the same matter. The whole thing has now been referred to the FIA for a ruling as it has been found that Team Lotus ran a car last year which used Force India IP on it due to the details being found at the wind tunnel facilities which both teams use.

This could go badly for Caterham...
Be interesting to see if they're fined $50,000,000 and chucked out of the Constructors' Championship, no?
 

canis

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Be interesting to see if they're fined $50,000,000 and chucked out of the Constructors' Championship, no?
You have to remember, that was not for the original offense, but the continued use of the data after it was found and the supposed "cover up" of how widely distributed it was. But it will be interesting with a new hand stearing the FIA finding out exactly what punishment will be applied for this. Think Caterham are going to be at the very least putting their hands in the relatively deep pockets of Fernandes to hand over some sort of fine.
 

Bill Boddy

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It may well be dependent on how they acquired the IP. If it came from teh company running the common wind tunnel Caterham might not even have realised that it was illegal. If, however, it is shown that the knew it was illegal they should be treated like McLaren and Renault.
 

RasputinLives

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I'm guessing van der Garde since he was in Malaysia for the GP2 race.
I'd have thought that but wondered if Rossi was as he was listed as their reserve in Australia and doesn't have the 3.5 Series to worry about until May. I have the feeling they prefer him over Van Der Garde but he just doesn't have the cash.
 

RasputinLives

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So this is odd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodolfo_González

Gonzalez has an extremly poor record in GP2 and over on the GP2 thread there has been questions as to why he's in the GP2 team at all and the conclusion was money, but why put him in the car at a test session? A big chance to make rapid improvements to the car and to finally drag themselves on to the back of the Toro Rosso's. Surely this isn't the time to make a few bucks and throw in a pay driver.

Maybe he's great at feedback and I've got it wrong. Seems very odd especially when you think they have Raiz, Van Der Garde, Rossi and even Trulli on their books still!
 

Viscount

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So far 5 different drivers have driven a Caterham this year & Rossi is set to be number 6 when he drives on the Friday in Barcelona. Must be some kind of record having that many people drive their car in one season, I wonder if anyone else will pay to have a go in the Caterham.
 

siffert_fan

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Can someone explain to me what is going on with Catherham vs Force India? As I recall, FI won a patent infringement case against Catherham, yet now the BBC says that FI is being hit with a fine of 650k pounds for the same case!
 

Il_leone

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the improvements from Caterham are not there yet and with Fernandes financially backing QPR..it might get more difficult for them to move up

I read the Autosport article and did not realise they were nowhere nearer the teams in Q2 and getting points.

It is a surprise with Red Bull technology and Renault engine with Mike Gascoyne they have not made more ground. I can only put it down to not interpreting the rules as well and a lack of backing
 
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