Caterham (formerly Lotus)

sportsman

Sidecar racers have the biggest cojones
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The value of the rinngit is unimportant.It how many you pay thats important.
Kuala Lumpur to Gtwick return regular fare is
Regular (LGW - KUL)
1,130.00 MYR1 Guest @ 1,130.00 MYR
567.00 MYRAirport Tax and Fees
90.00 MYRFuel Surcharge
40.00 MYRCarbon Offset Surcharge
3,119.00 MYRTotal
 

Bill Boddy

Professional layabout
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In 2010 the profit was just over 1 billion rinngits, so he will borrow money on the strength of that and of other factors in his business plan and results.

However, he will not borrow it all in one go, it will be over several years as he brings in batches of planes. The bank that Air Asia works with is Credit Suisse, so it is quite likely that they will do the arrangements. Just to be on the safe side Credit Suisse will take out a bet that Air Asia will not be able to afford to repay this amount of money and so will get their money back one way or another.
 

RasputinLives

Not dead
Contributor
Interesting that Heiki reckons that just having the KERS system attached to 'the beast' this year will give them 4 tenths a lap. I had a quick look and that would have put them just about on Williams tale in quali last year but still not getting out of Q1. Now Williams only got 5 points last year and lucked into a couple of those so I'm guessing Caternham are hoping their new ermmm....beautifuly designed car is going to give them a bit more as well as the KERS.

You can't fault their optimism but does anyone else feel that the gap between them and the back of the midfield is still a massive leap away and that they won't make it all this season? We won't know until testing I guess - and lets face it Williams or someone could have built a stinker - but I don't see 2012 being the season Caternham get into the midfield battle. Maybe on a weird race day they may bring a point home but again I think they'll be looking to lady luck to bring it them.
 

Slyboogy

World Champion
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Think you need to add in a gain for aerodynamics aswell, which might jut give them a couple of tenths or more.

I wonder if Marissia will have KERS :thinking:
 

racecub

Champion Elect
I really like this team, second favourite to McLaren. I hope to see them battling regularly with the middle teams and always getting into Q2. And I like Mike Gascoyne. They have lots of things in place and seem serious about Success. The two things that really let them down last year, no KERS and no blown diffuser are no longer a problem (they have red bull KERS) I like Heikki but wish they'd swap Trulli for another driver. Got a bit pee'd off with Renault for nicking the name Lotus but Caterham's good. That episode put me off Renault and more onto Caterham . So..........Caterham, one to watch I think!
 

teabagyokel

#dejavu
Valued Member
The 'real' Lotus would be in different colours to the Caterham or Proton cars that are going around. Lotus were the first to take on the colours of its main sponsor, and did that through all the ages whether driven by Hill, Andretti or Senna. Therefore, were Caterham the 'real' Lotus they would wear the Red and White of Air Asia, if Proton were they'd find a main sponsor and paint the car accordingly.

Certainly, Lotus would not promote JPS if it wasn't sponsored by JPS. Chapman moved forward, and did not look back.
 

downforce

Race Winner
KERS won't just give them 4 tenths a lap, it will give them the oppurtunity to take places off the line and be able to defend them on the straights.

KERS is of course more use at some tracks than others and I believe Kovi got 13th at Monza last year - imagine if he had had KERS as well.

And of course the EBD will help them gain relative pace as well.

They may be on track for a point!!
 

sportsman

Sidecar racers have the biggest cojones
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The 'real' Lotus would be in different colours to the Caterham or Proton cars that are going around. Lotus were the first to take on the colours of its main sponsor, and did that through all the ages whether driven by Hill, Andretti or Senna. Therefore, were Caterham the 'real' Lotus they would wear the Red and White of Air Asia, if Proton were they'd find a main sponsor and paint the car accordingly.

Certainly, Lotus would not promote JPS if it wasn't sponsored by JPS. Chapman moved forward, and did not look back.
Proton have sold their shares in Group Lotus. The Lotus F1 fully owned by Genii Capital.
Name & Registered Office:
LOTUS F1 TEAM LIMITED
16 OLD BAILEY
LONDON
EC4M 7EG
Company No. 01806337
 

Josh

Champion Elect
Proton have sold their shares in Group Lotus. The Lotus F1 fully owned by Genii Capital.
Are you sure? The only thing I could find was that the Malaysian government sold its stake in Proton and that there were rumours about Proton selling Lotus but this was later denied by Bahar.
 

sportsman

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ExtremeNinja

Karting amateur
Contributor
That doen't say anything about Group Lotus owning Proton only that Proton no longer own shares in the F1 team.
 

Josh

Champion Elect
Yeah but Lotus F1 isn't the same as Group Lotus... Group Lotus is still owned by Proton.
 
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