Caterham (formerly Lotus)

KekeTheKing

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The differences between Lord Hesketh's feel-good operation and Tony Fernandes' vanity venture are far too numerous to even count. I see no similarities whatsoever, aside from their short tenure in the sport that is.
 

Jen

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I see any small and, possibly, underfunded team as a 'modern day' Hesketh.

What is/was the difference between Hesketh and Fernandes in your eyes?
 

KekeTheKing

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Oh boy, where to begin!

Hesketh and Bubbles went racing to enjoy themselves, pure and simple. Tony saw a business opportunity under the pretense that Ferrari and McLaren (et al) spending would be reigned in to a (relatively) paltry 40 Million.

Hesketh not only portrayed, but wholeheartedly lived the devil-may-care attitude that endeared them to many a fan. Team Lotus Air Asia Caterham never once inspired any sort of feel-good atmosphere that signified the Hesketh/Horsely/Hunt era. Fernandes' outift was as boringly corporate as you could imagine. The only charm they engendered was due to the fact that they were the natural "David" to F1's "Goliath's".

I could honestly go on and on about how Caterham doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Hesketh, but I feel absolutely no need, because its quite obvious to anyone taking an honest view of the situation.

Fernandes' actions over the past 3 months clearly show that he was never a racer, simply an opportunist.
 

Jen

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Finally outed as an old style racer then :).

But the F1 world has sadly moved on and, we the fans, have to move on too, whilst taking comfort from those who dare whatever their motive.

If we were to remove all the 'corporate' teams now, there would be sod all left. Opportunists abound whether they have history or not and Caterham is/was just one more chancing their arm.
 

Jen

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Alex and James were extraordinary in what they did. So you are probably right as few chance their arm any more!
 

Mephistopheles

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I expect them to turn up do one racing lap and claim the 2 mill prize money which will not go towards paying the staff what they are owed but straight in to matey boy's back bin...
 

Mephistopheles

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The lack of minnows showing up to compete for the honor of bringing up the rear is of no consequence when assessing the supreme sporting nature of Formula One. Pre-qualifying is a relic from a bye-gone era born out of necessity and was more of an inconvenience than anything. I've watched several of those old pre-Quali sessions and it was more Amateur-hour than F1.
I think it's always been obvious who the "minnows" are. The teams that wouldn't win even if everyone else retired that day, because they probably would too.
Manufacturers are modern day F1's bread and butter. The disappearance of Caterham and Marussia says absolutely nothing to me about the sporting nature of Formula One.
 

KekeTheKing

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Caterham and Marussia obviously

Edit - clarification

Mephistopheles - I see you're quoting posts from other threads and you still can't manage to make a cogent point.
 
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KekeTheKing

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Finally outed as an old style racer then :).
Never been a secret. Even though I did not watch contemporaneously, Keke Rosberg was the first F1 pilot that I became thoroughly enamored with. In an era of balls-out driving, his was the ballsiest. I've always supported drivers based on their on track exploits, which naturally led me to supporting Hamilton.

From the outset Caterham employed two of the least inspiring drivers the grid has seen in recent times. And once they resorted to pay drivers it only got worse.
 

cider_and_toast

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The question has to be asked "What's the point?". Dog slow car, crap driver, waste of money all round.
 
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