Budget caps....let's talk

Il_leone

World Champion
Sorry but everyone has to work within the means . Red Bull are not short of money..they will just Alpha Tauri take the hit to make a point. How about halve Verstappen's salary?
 

cider_and_toast

Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex
Staff Member
Premium Contributor
You don't think Christian Horner crying about the budget cap is designed to take the heat of Red Bull's use of team orders do you?
 

sobriety

Race Winner
To be completely fair, it isn't just Redbull who want the cap upping, it's all the top teams, as they can easily afford to spend more than it. It's just Horner is dumb/arrogant enough to willingly stick his head over the parapet to be their spokesman.
 

F1Brits_90

Champion Elect
maybe. but if you cant have a season for 150m you worry about the state of F1 finances. it had to be reigned in. Red bull Ferrari & Mercedes collectively were spending a billion dollars for 1 season.

they need to live in the real world because if we talk about the 2nd tier teams because what ive heard from sky sports all of them are spending below £150m because they dont have the funds to get up to the budget. also when you look at other motorsports

WRC - 70m
WEC - 25m
Moto GP - 15m
Formula E - 13m
Indycar - 10m
 

cider_and_toast

Exulted Lord High Moderator of the Apex
Staff Member
Premium Contributor
One of Parkinson's laws of business states that work will always fill the time available for its completion. I. E. regardless of how small the job is, if you give someone two days to get it done, it will take two days.

The same is true of F1 spending. Teams will always spend the amount of money available to spend. There was an article in (I think) Motorsport magazine a few years ago when F1 lurched through another financial crisis. The article showed the change in budgets over the years and showed the amount of money coming in to a team. Basically, if you give a team 200 million to spend, they will spend 200 million. Give the steering wheel design team 1000 pounds to design the wheel and they will give you a £1000 steering wheel. Give them £50000 and they will give you a £50000 steering wheel. Is there any difference between the two? Probably not.

The Cosworth FVA and DFV engines were designed and introduced successfully on a budget of a shade over 1.3 million pounds in today's prices. A modern F1 engine is estimated to be 6 million pounds for 1.
 

Il_leone

World Champion
To be completely fair, it isn't just Redbull who want the cap upping, it's all the top teams, as they can easily afford to spend more than it. It's just Horner is dumb/arrogant enough to willingly stick his head over the parapet to be their spokesman.
He should have his head above the parapet..taking a line out if Flavio" I'll shoot him with rubber bullets then real ones" to shut him permanently

It would funny if Alpha Tauri did do better than Red Bull on a smaller budget ..but that is wishful thinking
 

Dartman

Pole Sitter
Actually they can easily keep within the budget if they develop their cars within the budget, if they need to exceed the budget then they don't understand the reason for the budget, it is there to level the playing field, the designers make a car good or bad, the idea of throwing millions at a shit car to make it a winner wasn't the object of the exercise, neither was throwing money at a successful car to keep it winning. The object of the budget was to allow the midfield to join the money no object top three on the same budget, some will some won't, the second half of the season may be more exciting providing the budget is kept and properly scrutinised.
 
Top Bottom