Big Bang? What Big Bang, I didn't hear one, did you?

Mephistopheles

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Big Bang! What big bang I never heard anything, is like that tree falling in a forest thing, if a big bang happens in space and there is nobody there to hear it does it make a noise...?
 

The Pits

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I like to think of it like this:

Put your hand in an empty bag, and use it to pick something up. The bag now contains something, which was always there, but which is now inside the bag.

Personally, my theory is one where there are a multitude of universes, which sometimes spill over in to each other, either through black holes or big bangs. Oh, and dont forget that there are also likely to be many dimensions that we cannot see nor understand, which could also explain where stuff came from.

But all in all, just stuff moving between rooms!!
 

Jen

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More philosophy than science then? Which is absolutely fine by me!

But all in all, just stuff moving between rooms!!

This is my description of death - souls moving from one room to another!!

Bet you didn't see that coming? ;)
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brane_cosmology

Sorry, but more science than philosophy, maybe not phrased in a scientific way.

If you have a bag, it has an inside. If you turn it inside out, it still has an inside, but it is not the same inside as before.

Brane theory is something which indicates that there are more than one universe (multiverses) which exist, and from time to time, bits can spill over from one to another. In the case of the big bang, some schools of thought theorise that matter from one brane spilled out in to ours, in essence, the effect would be the same as a bag being used to grab something, then being turned inside out, so the contents which were grabbed, whilst previoulsy being outside the bag are now inside it. The stuff came from a different brane, or universe, but have not just "appeared"
 
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Incubus

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Where did the stuff and the rooms come from?

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From nowhere at all, if you follow the quantum reasoning. Tings at sub-microscopic level get far weirder. Particles being in two places at once, popping in and out of existance. And weirdest of all particles changing their behaviour according to whether you observe them directly or not. As though we were all the product of our own imagination. At the same time we're made of particles. It's like, if you add enough zeros up you end up with a number. :twisted:
 

Titch

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:D OK one more time ... Where did the particles come from. And.... There had to be an original Universe, before the multiverses. What I'm trying to say is that whatever the nature of being at the moment, it had to start somewhere. Why and How is probably beyond human comprehension.
Sorry I'll get my coat.
 
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Mephistopheles

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As the great Captain Kirk once said.

Is this,,,,,,,,,,,, the real life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, or is this,,,,,,,,,,,, just fantasy,,,,,,,,,, caught in a,,,,,,, landslide,,,,,,,,,,,,,, no,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, escape,,,, from,,,,, reality...
 

Bill Boddy

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According to quantum theory particles can appear out of nowhere, but this should be in pairs, e/g/ 1 matter, 1 antimatter and they would normally both disappear at the same time as each other. However, quantum theory can be used to explain anything which it is not possible to explain any other way, e.g. a particle being in two differing places at the same time. I think that strings can do even more clever things, if you ask a physicist to explain he will tell you that it is too complex to do so. In other words, trust me, I'm a nerd.
 

cider_and_toast

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According to a book I once read, the world is a giant flat disc being carried on the back of four elephants that in turn are standing on the back of a giant turtle that is slowly making its way across space.

It seems plausible but I'm not sure.
 

Bill Boddy

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The one I read said that the turtle was swimming but I don't remember in what. Maybe it was in a sea that was located on the flat disk.
 

Olivier

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... and then there's the theory that our Universe was the result of multiple multidimensional universes colliding ... so we are the debris if you will
 

cider_and_toast

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It gets more mind bending when you think that on a basic level, everything, everywhere is made of the same stuff. We are all Protons, Electrons and Neutrons. It's just the arrangement that's different. You and your teapot on an atomic level are identical. Mad isn't it?
 

Titch

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On this planet don't forget the carbon and silicates that everything has in common as well. Including us.
 
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