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[F1Brits_90]

well possibly because didn't turn out that Marlboro were still subliminally sponsoring McLaren til 96 & Ferrari until 2010/2011?? because of that livery at McLaren & the barcode on the Ferrari I'm sure I heard a few unconfirmed rumours that Maurizio Arrivabene used to be a marketing executive for Philip Morris at Marlboro

 

[RasputinLives]

Did you know the 1976 British Grand Prix was not shown live on TV due to the Surties team having Durex sponsorship on their cars?

 

[Incubus]

Titch All that came over a decade later though.

My original question was more to do with why the European GP in '85 was treated any differently juts because it was the european rather than the british GP. At a time when the ban on tobacco advertising was restricted to Britain and Germany why calling is the European GP somehow place it outside of british law?

What was even more puzzling was that thaat team Lotus did withdraw their John Player logos whereas McLaren and Ligier displayed their full Marlboro and Giranes liveries.

Anyway, probably not the mos interesting topic around, just curious....

 

[sobriety]

Marlboro were still subliminally sponsoring McLaren til 96 & Ferrari until 2010/2011??

I thought they still were?

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro logo · F1 Fanatic

 

[vintly]

I've always despised that logo combination, it fails on so many areas of design. Never crossed my mind that it had something to do with Marlboro, so it fails even more and I like it even less. Harrumph.

 

[F1Brits_90]

I thought they still were?

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro logo · F1 Fanatic

didn't realise that, but surely not as I remember the fia came down quite hard on Ferrari for trying to still take banned tobacco money

 

[RasputinLives]

ClickOn Motorsport appear to do a comedy drivers whatsapp thing after each race now.

Like so: LEAKED: F1 Driver's Post-Baku Whatsapp Chat - CLICKON Motorsport

Clip The Apex have had something similar called The Paper Chain that has run for a good few years.

Coincidence or have we had a visitor?

 

[RasputinLives]

Is someone going to do a driver write up for Brendan Hartley? I'd have a go myself but having not actually seen much of his career over in WEC I don't feel I'm qualified.

Only current driver on the grid without his own thread.

 

[gethinceri]

I'd write one, but I don't know who he is.

 

[cider_and_toast]

I'd write one but it's my prediction he'll be dropped before the end of the season.

As one of our biggest WEC fans it could be one for you FB?

 

[FB]

I'll work on it, got a busy weekend and need to write the Bahain PQR thread and quiz.

 

[Bill Boddy]

Having had a busy family weekend I did not get to watch the Formula E race. Is it possible to watch a replay since the promoters seem to have decided excluding viewers is a good idea?

 

[Splash]

BBC iPlayer.

 

[FB]

Picking up on the Marlboro subliminal advertising Mission Winnow is part of Philip Morris International and is "to build a better future of the 1.1 billion people who smoke". Not sure of I feel this appropriate given the smoking advertising ban.

 

[Legs]

In yesterday's race, none of the top four had ever won a World Championship race before. Apart from the Indy 500s, and 1950 British and Monaco GPs, has this ever happened before?

EDIT, yes, Canada 1995 (Alesi, Barrichello, Irvine, Panis) Any others?

 

[Legs]

1952 Swiss GP: none of the eight drivers who finished had won a race before, and none would apart from Piero Taruffi, who won that day.

 

[Legs]

1961 France
1964 Austria
1971 Italy
1995 Canada

Most recent time that the podium consisted only of non-winners was Hungary 2006 (Button, de la Rosa, Heidfeld)

 

[F1Brits_90]

another stat for you, German GP was the last time Hamilton didnt win from pole

 

[RasputinLives]

Another stat. Max Verstappen has failed to be a classified finisher in just over 19% of all Grand Prix he has entered.

That roughly means he has retired from 1 in every 5 Grand Prix he has started.

 

[RasputinLives]

To put that in perspective Lewis Hamilton has not been a classified finisher in just under 9% of his starts. That includes his DSQ.