Grand Prix 2019 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

Angel

🧸 Smile, it might never happen.
Contributor
Please don't let Ferrari screw up tomorrow! Please.

That new upgraded Mercedes engine isn't looking that good, first Perez has a major issue, now Kubica does. Mind you the upgraded Ferrari engine isn't much better with Giovinazzi having a problem with it. Clever of them to let Alpha run it first to iron out the kinks though.
 

Ruslan

Points Scorer
i got to say on holiday it did make qualifying more exciting. having seen nothing before hand

but it does give them time to discuss F1 matters in more detail. which came in handy discussing all events of the last 2 weeks. is great to listen too if not riveting on track
Well, we probably don’t want to read to much in that 0.75 second qualifying advantage. Vettel completely muffed the second sector of his lap and I gather the two Mercedes were turned down so as make sure their engines didn’t grenade.
 

F1Brits_90

Race Winner
Vettel completely muffed the second sector of his lap
but that's qualifying getting a lap hooked up under pressure vettel didnt twice & leclerc did. he got pole, i dont expect him to run & hide but thats still same car same track. 3/4 of a second
 

Bill Boddy

Professional layabout
Premium Contributor
Don't worry Angel, Ferrari will not need to do anything. The times for the Ferrari drivers were obtained by having low down force which means that the tyres will slide more; in the race simulations the Mercedes were outlasting Ferrari by several laps. It will be Hungary all over again but with different drivers.

Incidentally, the lap where Albon is being compared to Verstappen Albon's was clean whereas Verstappen lost tenths by a bad mistake. In am not saying that Albon is not fast but we need a few more laps before we start making comparisons.

Ghasly was being hailed as the new great young driver when he got a fourth early in his career.
 

Ruslan

Points Scorer
but that's qualifying getting a lap hooked up under pressure vettel didnt twice & leclerc did. he got pole, i dont expect him to run & hide but thats still same car same track. 3/4 of a second
Vettel and Leclerc were running close to each other through all the qualifying sessions and free practice sessions. Vettel just blew a lap.
 

The Artist.....

Champion Elect
Given the incident in the F2 race, I am in two minds about whether there should even be an F1 race today. Sometimes, there are bigger things than sport.
 

F1Brits_90

Race Winner
Given the incident in the F2 race, I am in two minds about whether there should even be an F1 race today. Sometimes, there are bigger things than sport.
yes i see that point i know they cancelled both F2 races rightly & they have a minute silence. im fully expecting no champagne. but i cant talk about the mood because it was before my time. but they carried on racing in 1994 after ratsenberger passing in qualifying. so some people want to carry on
 

rufus_mcdufus

Champion Elect
Considering how safe virtually every circuit has been made in recent years,it does seem odd that that particular spot at Spa seems to have escaped modification, seeing how many massive crashes have happened there.
 

Dartman

Points Scorer
In the 60's and 70's and before they raced on with burnt drivers buried in their cars at the side of the track, just yellows, some days one luck runs out, if it happened a couple of laps later when traffic was less bunched he may have walked away, it was just a bad combination of a survivable accident and the car at right angle to a following car and drivers with no way to go. Safety costs money, whether there is that amount of money in F2 to build cars to F1 standards who knows. I seem to remember catch fencing stopped this type of accident but caused other safety problems as the driver couldn't be extracted from the car because it was encased in fencing mesh at times.
 

F1Brits_90

Race Winner
Considering how safe virtually every circuit has been made in recent years,it does seem odd that that particular spot at Spa seems to have escaped modification, seeing how many massive crashes have happened there.
I was discussing this of course was the only talk of motorsport convocation, but the run off isn't the big problem because 180mph tarmac run off would need to be trebled its impractical, but it was the barrier at fault it needs to be better at absorbing the energy. because it was the bouncing off back on to the racing line that was issue not the run off
 

Angel

🧸 Smile, it might never happen.
Contributor
They will race and I guess it's a judgement call on whether each of us feels they should. F1Brits_90 is right, they did so Imola after Roland Ratzenberger lost his life and before that in even more awful circumstances as Dartman says.

We just have to hope nothing like that happens again this afternoon and you can be sure the drivers will have it on their minds as they get strapped into their cars today, they're bound to. No circuit is ever going to be completely 100% safe, no motor racing is either. Sure we see huge crashes and the drivers get out and walk away but sometimes, sadly, they don't. F1 and motor racing will go on though, as will F2 I'm sure, it always does.
 

RasputinLives

Not dead
Contributor
I knew the 60s and 70s argument would come out from someone. I get what's being said and you're all probably right and the race will go without incident but what if it doesn't? F1 seems to have a long history of "let's carry on it will be alright". Imola should probably never have got to race day with my driver in critical condition and another dead but they carried on, a wheel flew off into the crowd and they carried on, Senna was obviously in critical condition and they re-started the race. A wheel went bouncing down the pit lane taking out mechanics and they still got them all up on the podium. More recently there was a well predicted monsoon about to hit a Grand Prix and they wouldn't even move the start time.

I dunno maybe i'm 'health and safety gone mad' but if someone dies doing something maybe it's a good time to take stock for a few days. When this accidents happend at Alton Towers the park wasn't open for business the next day was it?
 
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