Grand Prix 2011 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

It's a long summer and the key discussions aren't about the F1.

As we are in the middle of the summer break, the SKY/BBC deal continues to take precedence over any on track action we saw at Hungary, which is a shame as we saw a cracker of a race where Jenson Button eventually won his second race of the season ahead of Sebastian Vettel who extended his lead at the top of the championship yet again and surely it takes a miracle for anyone to overtake him now with less than half the races to go.

However with Belgium coming closer on the calender, it seems as if Red Bull has lost the dominance it held over the first half of the season with McLaren appearing to have the best all round package with 4 wins now this year with 2 for Button and 2 for Hamilton. Ferrari aren't far behind and are perhaps the best team in warm conditions but that remains to be seen after a series of damp and cold races. However it would still be a foolish person to bet against Red Bull going into the Belgian Grand Prix where the fast sweeping corners and technical hairpins will no doubt play to their advantage.

Spa Francorchamps is regarded (quite rightly) as the best driver circuit on the calendar with the famous circuit having many variations from its original form to the current version which was last changed in 2006 to incorporate the new pit area and final chicane, the final chicane wasn't popular as both fans and drivers miss the challenging bus stop chicane and the 'new' pit lane which can cause problems.

The grand prix has been famous for it's unpredictable weather with violent storms and half the track being dry and the other wet at the same time and completely random showers, the big example was 2008 where a late shower caught out the entire field and cost Kimi Raikkonen (and eventually Hamilton) the win. In 1998 torrential rain caused one of the worst starts in F1 history where half the field was wiped out on turn 1, eventually (after a restart) Damon Hill won for Jordan in a 1-2 with Ralf Schumacher second, Michael Schumacher famously nearly started a fight with David Coulthard after crashing into him trying to lap him.

Michael Schumacher has an impressive record at this track, winning his first race at the track in 1992 and taking several wins at the track with his last coming in 2002 where he took his seventh world championship. However at the moment it is unlikely that he will add to his list of wins with the Mercedes well off the pace of the leading trio of Ferrari, Mclaren and Red Bull.

Mercedes might find themselves behind Force India at the race as the track suits them down to a tee, in 2009 Fisichella took a surprise pole position and then took second place just finishing behind Raikkonen in the Ferrari (who always seemed to win at Spa when he was driving there)
Sutil and Di Resta have shown impressive pace recently, with both achieving season bests at the last few races and are closing the gap to the flagging Renault team who have really lost performance since the start of the season with Heidfeld and Petrov dissapointing.

On a personal level I am really looking forward to this race as I have weekend tickets and will be at Pouhon all weekend to bring you the best coverage from the track, (better than these Sky lot anyway)

For Galahad's excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
Kobayashi was never going to be able to pass on the outside so he should have just merged in behind Hamilton.

He really is living up to his moniker.

It also means Red Bull are going to massively extend their lead in the Constructors' championship so that is also over for this year.
 
Personally, a massively disappointing race as we were once again denied a fight between all the top drivers.

Red Bull with another 1-2 so the WCC is also now done and dusted.

Button massively benefiting from his team mate's accident and subsequent safety car and making the most of the opportunity.

Excellent result for Mercedes.
 
Lewis would have had a shot at the win but it was obvious from the first cocuple of laps that his car was carrying way too much downforce. Once again Hamilton's misfortune benefits Vettel (gave him a free pit-stop) and he extends his championship lead. Also, I can't remember the last time Webber has had an average start, let alone a good one.
 
Well done to Vettel and RB, good race and everything worked beautifully. Props to Michael and Jenson for driving really well and using circumstances to their advantage, very impressive drives.

RBR - 10
Mercedes - 9.5
McLaren - 9
Ferrari - 8
Renault - 6.5
Sauber - 6
Torro Rosso - 5
Lotus - 5
 
Kobayashi was never going to be able to pass on the outside so he should have just merged in behind Hamilton.

He really is living up to his moniker.

It also means Red Bull are going to massively extend their lead in the Constructors' championship so that is also over for this year.

A lot of passes were made on the outside of that corner. Kobayashi had every right to put his car there, but Hamilton had no right to turn into him.
 
A lot of passes were made on the outside of that corner.

But that's the absolute worst part about this unfortunate scenario. Kobash wasn't lining up a pass, he had a half-hearted notion to look for a RE-PASS. He had already been dusted off on the straight, just as he had been by the train of cars that was getting away after having already passed him as well.
 
A lot of passes were made on the outside of that corner. Kobayashi had every right to put his car there, but Hamilton had no right to turn into him.

How did Lewis turn into him though? Koba was behind and made contact with his rear tyre so he couldn't have been beside him

I don't understand this position as put forward by EJ at all. So now the leading driver has to take responsibility for the following driver? The same EJ had the opposite opinion in Monaco when Lewis put his car up the inside of a driver who then turned in for his racing line

EJ can be a complete knob sometimes
 
I don't really know what it is about drivers today and the chance taking. Bruno off the start was in no position to come out of 1 with speed and grip and ended Alguersauri's race and almost took Alonso with too, similar to the Hamilton, Massa and Webber incident at Monaco, just because there is an inside doesn't mean you have to use it.

Jaime was the big loss today, he has been on song since Valencia and I am sure he would have been in the top 10
 
Red Bull won this at Seb's pit stop at the safety car. Brilliant, if slightly fortunate, tactics. Ferrari need to sort out their prime tyre problems and McLaren could do with some luck, either in qualie or the race. WDC over (although I all think we knew that anyway) but a great drive by Vettel and he overtook some people :p Yeah, go on, it was because he was on newer tyres, it was all down to DRS, blah, blah, blah...
 
Red Bull won this at Seb's pit stop at the safety car. Brilliant, if slightly fortunate, tactics. Ferrari need to sort out their prime tyre problems and McLaren could do with some luck, either in qualie or the race. WDC over (although I all think we knew that anyway) but a great drive by Vettel and he overtook some people :p Yeah, go on, it was because he was on newer tyres, it was all down to DRS, blah, blah, blah...

I was actually saying the same thing, Ferrari and Alonso should have been brought in and perhaps put on Primes and switch to options in the last 10 laps, it was a case of good race management.
 
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