Grand Prix 2011 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

It's a long summer and the key discussions aren't about the F1.

As we are in the middle of the summer break, the SKY/BBC deal continues to take precedence over any on track action we saw at Hungary, which is a shame as we saw a cracker of a race where Jenson Button eventually won his second race of the season ahead of Sebastian Vettel who extended his lead at the top of the championship yet again and surely it takes a miracle for anyone to overtake him now with less than half the races to go.

However with Belgium coming closer on the calender, it seems as if Red Bull has lost the dominance it held over the first half of the season with McLaren appearing to have the best all round package with 4 wins now this year with 2 for Button and 2 for Hamilton. Ferrari aren't far behind and are perhaps the best team in warm conditions but that remains to be seen after a series of damp and cold races. However it would still be a foolish person to bet against Red Bull going into the Belgian Grand Prix where the fast sweeping corners and technical hairpins will no doubt play to their advantage.

Spa Francorchamps is regarded (quite rightly) as the best driver circuit on the calendar with the famous circuit having many variations from its original form to the current version which was last changed in 2006 to incorporate the new pit area and final chicane, the final chicane wasn't popular as both fans and drivers miss the challenging bus stop chicane and the 'new' pit lane which can cause problems.

The grand prix has been famous for it's unpredictable weather with violent storms and half the track being dry and the other wet at the same time and completely random showers, the big example was 2008 where a late shower caught out the entire field and cost Kimi Raikkonen (and eventually Hamilton) the win. In 1998 torrential rain caused one of the worst starts in F1 history where half the field was wiped out on turn 1, eventually (after a restart) Damon Hill won for Jordan in a 1-2 with Ralf Schumacher second, Michael Schumacher famously nearly started a fight with David Coulthard after crashing into him trying to lap him.

Michael Schumacher has an impressive record at this track, winning his first race at the track in 1992 and taking several wins at the track with his last coming in 2002 where he took his seventh world championship. However at the moment it is unlikely that he will add to his list of wins with the Mercedes well off the pace of the leading trio of Ferrari, Mclaren and Red Bull.

Mercedes might find themselves behind Force India at the race as the track suits them down to a tee, in 2009 Fisichella took a surprise pole position and then took second place just finishing behind Raikkonen in the Ferrari (who always seemed to win at Spa when he was driving there)
Sutil and Di Resta have shown impressive pace recently, with both achieving season bests at the last few races and are closing the gap to the flagging Renault team who have really lost performance since the start of the season with Heidfeld and Petrov dissapointing.

On a personal level I am really looking forward to this race as I have weekend tickets and will be at Pouhon all weekend to bring you the best coverage from the track, (better than these Sky lot anyway)

For Galahad's excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
How do we know it was deliberate? Hamilton didn't keep his car in straight line...and for some reason states that he "didn't move" in that incident.
Why else would Maldonado need to get so far over to the left of the track, where there was already another car in front of him, on the slowing down lap after the chequered flag? He was the one behind, and didn't need to be anywhere near Hamilton's car at that point in the proceedings when competition was over. That's why I think it was deliberate.

To me it looks like Hamilton had begun to take a natural line over towards the centre of the track to 'straighten out' the bend, then pulled quickly back to the left as he saw Maldonado coming up quickly behind him (who he would have been somewhat surprised to see coming up so fast and close, as racing had ceased before the previous corner).
'Not moving' in this context could quite reasonably be taken to mean 'Not having made a significant and deliberate change of direction', which he didn't. At least nowhere near enough of a movement that Maldonado (who was supposed to have stopped racing you remember) couldn't have avoided contact (being the one behind, having the advantage of being able to see the car in front and not supposed to be racing).
I am actually quite staggered that anyone is seeking to apportion any part of the blame to Lewis. Must be 'coz he's...
 
5 place drop only what a joke! Maldando should have been sent home from the event for what he did. I'm sure if Lewis had done this he would have been banned from the race.

If Maldando has a problem with Lewis, he should have left it until after the qualifying session and had either an arguement or a good old fashioned punch-up (not that i'd recommed violence to any of you kids on here). Just it seems these two have issues and it may be the best way to sort this out.
 
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I am actually quite staggered that anyone is seeking to apportion any part of the blame to Lewis. Must be 'coz he's...

I am not blaming Lewis, but to say he dint do anything when quite frankly he turned in twice although not violently, he did have a bit of responsibility, and there is no excuse for what Maldonado did deliberate or non deliberate but it could have been avoided by both drivers (both I think Maldonado had a major brainfade or it was intentional).
 
If McLaren are running more wing than Red Bull and my special "sources" tell me that it will rain tomorrow, they will be much quicker in the middle sector and look after there inters or wets much better.
 
It will be dry for the race. My special "sauces" have told me. Thus all those who qualified on a dry setup will be very HP.
 
Although yet to be formally approved, the new system is slated to come into effect from the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, with all drivers starting from a level playing field as previous reprimands won't be counted.
 
The Lord moves in mysterious ways and he is rarely in the steward's office, it would seem!

Race tomorrow, hallelujah - and hopefully without too much controversy but lots of excitement and skilful racing.

If there is justice in the World (and I'm not convinced), the vicar might make it to lap 6. :)
 
How do we know it was deliberate? Hamilton didn't keep his car in straight line...and for some reason states that he "didn't move" in that incident.

hamiltons twitch was because he didnt expect maldonado to be where he was,and so when lewis was about to turn a little to the right he saw maldonado and it kinda spooked him so he had to quickly correct himself,hence the twitch.
the bottom line is tho,maldonado didnt need to be so close to lewis in the first place trying to overtake him.q2 was over and he had plenty of room on the right.
 
A reprimand is a total joke, either he was guilty of something or he wasn't

How can you blame him for being overtaken by someone who then crashes into him

Did the stewards not see that inboard video?

And doesn't Mansell seem to enjoy this stewarding? It seems to always be him, why doesn't he go to back to being a special constable and tackle yobs on the streets?

Pathetic
 
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