Grand Prix 2011 Belgian Grand Prix Practice, Qualifying & Race Discussion

It's a long summer and the key discussions aren't about the F1.

As we are in the middle of the summer break, the SKY/BBC deal continues to take precedence over any on track action we saw at Hungary, which is a shame as we saw a cracker of a race where Jenson Button eventually won his second race of the season ahead of Sebastian Vettel who extended his lead at the top of the championship yet again and surely it takes a miracle for anyone to overtake him now with less than half the races to go.

However with Belgium coming closer on the calender, it seems as if Red Bull has lost the dominance it held over the first half of the season with McLaren appearing to have the best all round package with 4 wins now this year with 2 for Button and 2 for Hamilton. Ferrari aren't far behind and are perhaps the best team in warm conditions but that remains to be seen after a series of damp and cold races. However it would still be a foolish person to bet against Red Bull going into the Belgian Grand Prix where the fast sweeping corners and technical hairpins will no doubt play to their advantage.

Spa Francorchamps is regarded (quite rightly) as the best driver circuit on the calendar with the famous circuit having many variations from its original form to the current version which was last changed in 2006 to incorporate the new pit area and final chicane, the final chicane wasn't popular as both fans and drivers miss the challenging bus stop chicane and the 'new' pit lane which can cause problems.

The grand prix has been famous for it's unpredictable weather with violent storms and half the track being dry and the other wet at the same time and completely random showers, the big example was 2008 where a late shower caught out the entire field and cost Kimi Raikkonen (and eventually Hamilton) the win. In 1998 torrential rain caused one of the worst starts in F1 history where half the field was wiped out on turn 1, eventually (after a restart) Damon Hill won for Jordan in a 1-2 with Ralf Schumacher second, Michael Schumacher famously nearly started a fight with David Coulthard after crashing into him trying to lap him.

Michael Schumacher has an impressive record at this track, winning his first race at the track in 1992 and taking several wins at the track with his last coming in 2002 where he took his seventh world championship. However at the moment it is unlikely that he will add to his list of wins with the Mercedes well off the pace of the leading trio of Ferrari, Mclaren and Red Bull.

Mercedes might find themselves behind Force India at the race as the track suits them down to a tee, in 2009 Fisichella took a surprise pole position and then took second place just finishing behind Raikkonen in the Ferrari (who always seemed to win at Spa when he was driving there)
Sutil and Di Resta have shown impressive pace recently, with both achieving season bests at the last few races and are closing the gap to the flagging Renault team who have really lost performance since the start of the season with Heidfeld and Petrov dissapointing.

On a personal level I am really looking forward to this race as I have weekend tickets and will be at Pouhon all weekend to bring you the best coverage from the track, (better than these Sky lot anyway)

For Galahad's excellent circuit write up, see here http://cliptheapex.com/pages/circuit-de-spa-francorchamps/
 
How many reprimands does Lewis has now, he must be close to a penalty, I thought is was 3 strikes(reprimands) in a season then a penalty or is it 5, can't remember. Anyone help me out? :dunno:
 
I'll be interested to hear what the reason is for Hamilton's reprimand.

Presumably it's for the moves he made prior to Maldonado driving into him?
 
I'm frankly ... not ... amazed at the leniency of that punishment. Can't help thinking about the paradox that if you crash into someone else you get 5 place grid drop, but crash into a wall at someone else's command, it ruins your career.
 
From Twitter:

The penalty/reprimands were for 'causing a collision' with the other car.
Stewards says incident was defined by 16.1 of Sporting Regs
 
Lost for words.............5 place grid penalty is a joke, as usual it sends a message out to other drivers that there is only a small punishment for deliberately driving into someone. If you are already at the back half of the grid and you want to change the front row, just use your car like a battering ram and hey presto....... Well done stewards !
 
I agree the 5 place is a bit lenient, I would have given him a 10 place grid drop, but then it would only move him 3 places back.

And like I have stated before both were at fault one more than the other, maybe that's why Maldonado got off with a lesser penalty since him and Lewis where going into a wedge.
 
Should have really been sent to the back of the grid, but hey they are the "Stewards" (Who always give the wrong decisions when regarding when Lewis is involved)
 
I'm frankly ... not ... amazed at the leniency of that punishment. Can't help thinking about the paradox that if you crash into someone else you get 5 place grid drop, but crash into a wall at someone else's command, it ruins your career.
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The punishment that can only be applied is either

Disqualification

Back of the grid

Grid penalty

Fines

because the incident did not happen during the race and Lewis was able to carry on to Q3 and set his time.

Obviously if Lewis was forced into the wall deliberately and had an accident which could be avoided by Maldonado's actions then the punishment may have been different.

A reprimand for Lewis was probably right given he was about aggressive on his quali run but understandable but whether he deliberately did a feint on the slowing down lap is debatable but Maldonado had plenty of room and Lewis was going slower so I am not sure what he was thinking taking that line
 
The whole thing's laughable. Yet again the stewards at Spa make themselves look ridiculous. Either Hamilton did something wrong, in which case he should have been penalised, or he didn't. Maldonado was clearly reckless and deliberately drove into another driver and should have been disqualified, or at the very least sent to the back of the grid and given a hefty fine.
 
And yet there are some in the paddock who think Hamilton got off lightly.

As ever, there will always be differences of opinions when it comes to stewards' decisions.
 
Maldonado was clearly reckless and deliberately drove into another driver and should have been disqualified, or at the very least sent to the back of the grid and given a hefty fine.

How do we know it was deliberate? Hamilton didn't keep his car in straight line...and for some reason states that he "didn't move" in that incident.
 
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