Brendon Hartley

Discussion in 'Drivers' started by FB, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. Angel

    Angel Happy to be here. Contributor

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    You're right, luck is a good thing to have in F1 and Hartley doesn't have any lately, bless him. A good mental attitude is also very helpful, with most sports a lot of it is in the mind and if crappy things keep happening it's bound to get you down isn't it? Knowing his seat is being touted around probably won't help him either, it wouldn't me.
     
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  3. Il_leone

    Il_leone Champion Elect

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    I wonder if anyone in Red Bull or Toro Rosso is talking to Hartley directly because he has constantly having to fend them off
    It is not the scenario a few years back when Helmut got angry that Kyvat was going to be replaced by Gasly at Singapore and shot down the rumours.

    I don't see anyone coming out to defend Hartley
     
  4. Angel

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    That's the thing, no one from the team is denying they're looking to replace him are they? Poor Brendon.
     
  5. RasputinLives

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    It's all a bit Sebastian Bourdais.

    To be fair to Hartley he must have know he was a stopgap when he came in. He was a last resort signing. A sure up the flood wall with a trusty sandbag type thing.

    I'm sure he'll go back to WEC where his real skill is.
     
  6. Angel

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    I'm sure he knew he wasn't first choice, or second or even third probably, but it still can't be nice to be him right now. After this his chances of ever getting back into F1 are probably over which is a shame.

    Sebastien Bourdais, yes that was unfortunate, Scot Speed's treatment by them wasn't great either was it?
     
  7. RasputinLives

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    Yeah but to be fair Scott Speed was awful.
     
  8. Angel

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    He didn't live up to his name, that's for sure.
     
  9. Il_leone

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    Unfortunately (or fortunately) for Brendon , he has been given a 2nd lifeline by Red Bull when he screwed up as a youngster and when there was no real competition against him for the seat. So it is difficult to judge his potential given young drivers at Red Bull normally come through by winning junior formula to prove his worth.

    Also it appears Brendan is too much of a nice guy and seems to lack the image of someone who is going to be a top driver when he gets into the car.

    Not sure what Hartley's aims were but I guess not having a PR machine behind to push him towards the Red Bull seat and become world champion is not helping
     
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  10. FB

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    He has had the dreaded "vote of confidence" from Helmut Marko.

    Marko 'no longer considering axing Hartley' from Toro Rosso
     
  11. Angel

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    He'll be out by the end of the week then, isn't that how these things usually go?
     
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  12. Il_leone

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    The words Helmut used is " No longer considering" which still is not exactly a boost of confidence that all this was happening behind the scenes and got leaked
     
  13. F1Brits_90

    F1Brits_90 Race Winner

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    might as well get some use out of this thread while we can :whistle:

    but few interesting things did anyone see the very weird interview on sky sports with Hartley, because the pressure has got to him because towards the end he almost asked himself a question something like a lot of people are saying im already sacked & then got really angry about his own question like the sky person asked it, started listing all his achievements & then huffed, stormed off. very odd

    & if he keeps his drive its likely not many his home nations will be able to watch him

    Formula 1: Sky New Zealand set to lose F1 broadcasting rights beyond 2018
     
  14. Il_leone

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    It does annoy you if someone wants to talk to you and the only thing they are interested in is whether you've been sacked or not ?

    For Brendan he is left defenceless from the constant speculation. He's not Kimi who simply say one or two words and walk away
     
  15. F1Brits_90

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    as I was saying above, sky sports are innocent they never asked but it was something like asking about how his race was, then towards the end he went into kevin keegan mode. & saying people keep saying im sacked but I was beating gasly in Singapore & Russia & outqualified him in suzuka.
     
  16. cider_and_toast

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    Yes, and that upswing in performance sort of coincided with the point at which people were saying you could be dropped. Funny that, Brendon!

    :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Il_leone

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    Well Brendan keeps saying he has a contract for 2019 and Toro Rosso won't announce the 2nd driver until the end of the season . Franz Tost being blunt has said Hartley has not done as well as Gasly "Ouch"

    It sort of coincides with the FE season starting so we will know if it is Albon or not because I don;t think Ocon will get the seat nor do I think Mick Schumacher is ready for F1
     
  18. Bill Boddy

    Bill Boddy Professional layabout Premium Contributor

    [QUOTE="Il_leone, post: 341266, member: 1445".... nor do I think Mick Schumacher is ready for F1[/QUOTE]

    He's got the name, what more bling could he need?:rolleyes:
     
  19. Il_leone

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    Bill Boddy Are you sure the name will help , just ask Ralf or Toyota?:whistle:
     
  20. Bill Boddy

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    I think that the name will get him in, what happens after that, who knows?
     
  21. Il_leone

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    Interesting to hear about conflicting stories regarding whether or not Gasly's car was damaged last week in Austin. It seems like Hartley is being muzzled :thinking: now I wonder why?
     

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