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Well guys just been watching Channel 4. Set yourself to never hear Michael Jackson song ever again and a lot of musical history books to have big fat holes in them.
 
Pretty damming. Hard to watch as a parent. Although I just don't get what the parents of the kids were thinking was going to happen.
 
but seriously & to deflect from the joke that in hindsight was probably borderline

there was always smoke, there was not just these 2, ive heard its alledgely because like peter pan he never grew up & the jimmy saville case bring new meaning to this because he was famous obviously not on same scale. so could be hidden. i heard from many media sources that it hard to disagree with the documentary. because they can be very detailed. i thought women with protest banner at channel 4. saying how much he has helped charity. well so did most bbc presenters in 1970s. but like jimmy saville this going to be touchy subject & is going to take alot more evidence a long while for people to accept. because they won't want to believe.

who i feel for if this confirmed. is the kids paris & 2 boys. as they are the ones that will have to live with this & have it follow them around. without going to dark, do we still think it was "natural causes" & not suspensious
 
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"suspensious"?
I thought it was an overdose.

yeah the story is that his doctor gave him an overdose, but it could be fishy, if he was on his last legs why would be promoting a huge farewell tour. maybe someone decided they were going to get retribution. as with these allegation I can imagine he had some enemys
 
I have recently become a fan of the Net Flicks.
I highly recommend their series "The Vietnam War" - I'm very well read on history, including that period, and the series made me look through a very different lens.
Additionally the Williams programme was very good - quite emotional.
If you're not a cycling fan, don't think Icarus is not for you - even though it begins with cycling it moves into other sports with quite remarkable context - F1 also tarred with the doping brush (as if we thought F1 was clean).
 
I've only managed to watch the first half hour or so of the Williams programme and haven't got into it yet.
 
F1 also tarred with the doping brush (as if we thought F1 was clean).

when i get netflux for f1 documentary ill check out icarus. as big cycling fan watched the grand tours since end of Armstrong era. which is why i really enjoyed the 'the program" gripping

but serious question how do you dope in F1 as because physical in 3rd. as car & mental is 1st & 2nd is advantages
 
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I'm sure we had a thread on this a while back with some very interesting answers about how drugs could be used in F1. Might try and dig it out.
 
on Williams film point forgot to say, how when you watched or watch it, is that being a big F1 fan like we all are not just a intrested neutral watched BBC, what they considered "upsetting scenes" were different to my "upsetting scenes". because the cars on fire & that lethal ages of the 70's. all the footage of his accident was fine, because Im used to that because ive seen so many times & documentaries were part of the risk

but then I did get very emotional & choked up at ginny his wife on the podium when Mansell won the 1986 GP at Brands & when Claire reads an extract of the book she wrote for frank in 1988 at the end :teary:
 
For those cycling fans you missed "A Boy, a Girl and a Bike" which was on Talking Pictures TV recently. The good new is that they always repeat sooner or later.

To give nothing away it takes place in Yorkshire where there is a chase sequence which goes to places where we went regularly but in a very strange order. Almost "the rolling English road".
 
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