Pre-Season The first Test of 2011 - Valencia

[snowy]

Apparently that is a genuine time!!! Even on fumes it's a quantum leap... must be under weight also.

 

[cider_and_toast]

How many sets of tyres do they have for this week?

According to the man from Pirelli on Autosport Live yesterday, the teams have been allocated 20 sets for this test. I don't know if that's the norm for a test session or weather they've been given extra on this occasion due to the lack of running data on the new tyres?

 

[teabagyokel]

Not bad for HRT.

Indeed not. What's going on, are we sensing some professionalism from the team that hasn't announced its second driver yet!

 

[sportsman]

Puzzling.HRT are using their 2010 car.

 

[McZiderRed]

Puzzling.HRT are using their 2010 car.

..Which may turn out to be their 2011 car as well?

 

[teabagyokel]

..Which may turn out to be their 2011 car as well?

And could well be their 2012 car.
And Sakon Yamamoto.

 

[Galahad]

Well, if Alonso could set a 1:11.4 at Valencia in last year's Ferrari, an HRT doing a 1:14.4 isn't that incredible...if they haven't made any concession to modify it for the 2011 regs.

I suspect a glory run. And not much glory, at that.

On the tyres, if they've got 20 sets of four compounds could we assume 5 sets of each? Which might not be a huge amount for 3 days' running, thinking about it...?

 

[cider_and_toast]

and according to it, teams have been experiencing high tyre degridation at the moment which is going to give Pirelli plenty of headaches between now and the next test.

The question is, while the cars are no longer running the double diffuser, will they have managed to find the lost down force elsewhere or are we expecting slower times (even if only be a fraction)?

As far as HRT goes, wasn't it Sauber last year doing runs on vapour to make a few sponsors sit up and take a look. Something similer here I suspect.

 

[snowy]

It would seem that the drivers have not been reading the script:

Fernando Alonso said: "It was not easy to keep the tyres consistent. We see some drop in the tyres when they are new. The first lap is good and then you lose two or three seconds a lap. Then you are more or less consistent but obviously too slow.
"We are trying some new solutions in terms of set-up to get some consistency. This afternoon we were happy with the long runs we did, so obviously it's a concern for everyone, but there is a way in the set-up and driving style, etc, to be a little bit gentler with the tyres."
Robert Kubica said he thought that the tyre degradation seen at Valencia was too extreme – although he acknowledged the weather conditions and track characteristics could be playing a factor in making the situation more extreme.
"Yes, it's too big," he said. "At least if you want to have a five or six-stop race then it is okay, but then we will need more tyres! I am joking.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89259

 

[sportsman]

I understood that this was Pirelli's mandate.To build tyres that would degrade without graining.They used the example of Montreal last year where the tyre isues provided a truly fantastic race.We were all complaining last year of drivers making the compulsory tyre change after a couple of laps and then finishing the race on the same set of tyres.
We all readily understand that the cars being tested here will be modified from data gathered from this testing.
Exactly the same principles apply to Pirelli.They will modify the compounds or supply different compounds for the next round of tests.

 

[snowy]

You and I bothered to read the script, perhaps the drivers are not given enough time to find out what is going on in their chosen profession...

 

[sportsman]

Agreed

 

[snowy]

DAY 3 of these testing times:

 

[snowy]

1.Sutil		Force India	1:14.288		11		

2.Massa		Ferrari	F150	1:15.650	+ 1.362	12		

3.Webber	Red Bull Racing	1:16.273	+ 1.985	8		

4.Perez		Sauber	C30	1:16.399	+ 2.111	6		

5.Buemi		Toro Rosso	1:16.904	+ 2.616	8		

6.Karthikeyan	HRT F1 Team	1:23.102	+ 8.814	4		

7.Schumacher	Mercedes GP	1:23.996	+ 9.708	2		

8.Glock	Virgin Racing	VR-01		 	

9.Button	McLaren			 	

10.Trulli	Lotus F1 		 	

11.Maldonado	Williams 		 	

12.Kubica	Lotus Renault GP 

 

[snowy]

MASSA

1     ----     

2         

3     1:18.859     -41.141

4     1:16.934     -1.925

5     1:16.331     -0.603

6     1:16.037     -0.294

7     1:16.023     -0.014

8     1:21.404     +5.381

9     1:15.786     -5.618

10     1:18.532     +2.746

11     1:15.650     -2.882

12     ----     

13     1:15.650     

14     ----     

15     1:19.016     

16     1:19.036     +0.02

17     1:18.645     -0.391

18     1:25.590     +6.945

19     1:18.418     -7.172

20     1:18.621     +0.203

21     1:18.988     +0.367

22     ----     

23     1:18.988     

24     ----     

25     1:15.168     

26     ----     

27     1:15.106     

28     1:15.495     +0.389

29     1:15.611     +0.116

30     1:29.071     +13.46

31     1:15.164     -13.907

32     1:15.576     +0.412

33     1:15.660     +0.084

34     1:15.648     -0.012

35     1:15.663     +0.015

36     1:15.733     +0.07

37     ----     

38     1:15.733     

39     ----     

40     1:14.602     

41     1:32.886     +18.284

42     1:14.541     -18.345

43     1:15.412     +0.871

44     1:25.688     +10.276

45     1:14.991     -10.697

46     1:15.504     +0.513

47     1:15.231     -0.273

48     1:15.808     +0.577

49     1:15.726     -0.082

50     1:15.865     +0.139

51     1:15.934     +0.069

52     ----     

53     1:15.934     

54     ----     

55     1:15.934     

56     1:14.837     -1.097

57     1:27.646     +12.809

58     1:14.944     -12.702

59     1:15.249     +0.305

60     1:15.024     -0.225

61     ----     

62     1:15.024     

63     1:15.304     +0.28

64     1:15.404     +0.1

65     1:15.739     +0.335

66     1:15.519     -0.22

67     ----     

68     1:15.519     

69     1:14.073     -1.446

70     1:29.581     +15.508

71     1:14.017     -15.564

72     ----     

73     1:14.017     

74     ----     

75     1:15.658     

76     1:15.967     +0.309

77     1:16.193     +0.226

78     1:16.375     +0.182

 

[snowy]

WEBBER

2 	----

3

4 	1:17.574 	-42.426

5 	1:16.763 	-0.811

6 	1:16.548 	-0.215

7 	1:16.273 	-0.275

8 	----

9 	1:16.273

10 	1:14.934 	-1.339

11 	1:14.701 	-0.233

12 	1:15.430 	+0.729

13 	1:15.255 	-0.175

14 	1:19.658 	+4.403

15 	1:18.595 	-1.063

16 	1:15.583 	-3.012

17 	----

18 	1:15.583

19 	1:17.148 	+1.565

20 	1:16.182 	-0.966

21 	1:16.100 	-0.082

22 	1:19.777 	+3.677

23 	1:16.045 	-3.732

24 	1:17.976 	+1.931

25 	----

26 	1:17.976

27 	1:16.582 	-1.394

28 	1:16.535 	-0.047

29 	1:17.503 	+0.968

30 	1:18.289 	+0.786

31 	1:16.561 	-1.728

32 	1:16.763 	+0.202

33 	----

34 	1:16.763

35 	1:18.220 	+1.457

36 	1:14.584 	-3.636

37 	1:15.180 	+0.596

38 	1:15.317 	+0.137

39 	1:15.670 	+0.353

40 	----

41 	1:15.670

42 	1:16.530 	+0.86

43 	1:16.134 	-0.396

44 	1:16.127 	-0.007

45 	1:16.328 	+0.201

46 	1:16.409 	+0.081

47 	----

48 	1:16.409

49 	----

50 	1:16.897

51 	1:16.361 	-0.536

53 	1:16.588 	+0.227



Timing goes up the creek here:



70 	1:15.719 	-0.869

71 	---- 	

72 	1:18.963 	

73 	1:18.265 	-0.698

74 	1:18.023 	-0.242

75 	---- 	

76 	1:18.023 	

77 	1:14.382 	-3.641

78 	1:14.708 	+0.326

79 	1:14.914 	+0.206

80 	1:15.110 	+0.196

81 	1:15.018 	-0.092

82 	1:15.272 	+0.254

83 	1:15.940 	+0.668

84 	---- 	

85 	1:15.940 	

86 	1:13.936 	-2.004

87 	1:18.288 	+4.352

88 	1:15.012 	-3.276

89 	1:15.896 	+0.884

90 	1:15.943 	+0.047

91 	---- 	

92 	1:15.943 	

93 	---- 	

94 	1:16.293 	

95 	1:15.978 	-0.315

96 	1:16.117 	+0.139

97 	1:15.926 	-0.191

98 	1:15.684 	-0.242

99 	1:16.791 	+1.107

100 	1:17.044 	+0.253

101 	1:16.408 	-0.636

102 	1:16.411 	+0.003

 

[snowy]

SUTIL

5 	1:15.619 	

6 	1:14.620 	-0.999

7 	1:14.633 	+0.013

8 	1:14.288 	-0.345

9 	---- 	

10 	1:14.288 	

11 	---- 	

12 	1:14.288 	

13 	1:16.951 	+2.663

14 	1:15.649 	-1.302

15 	1:17.992 	+2.343

16 	1:17.400 	-0.592

17 	1:17.193 	-0.207

18 	---- 	

19 	1:17.193 	

20 	1:14.629 	-2.564

21 	1:14.258 	-0.371

22 	1:17.446 	+3.188

23 	1:14.803 	-2.643

24 	---- 	

25 	1:14.803 	

26 	1:14.421 	-0.382

27 	---- 	

28 	1:14.421 	

29 	1:13.201 	-1.22

30 	1:20.773 	+7.572

31 	1:14.767 	-6.006

32 	---- 	

33 	1:14.767 	

34 	1:14.606 	-0.161

35 	1:15.501 	+0.895

36 	1:16.535 	+1.034

37 	---- 	

38 	1:16.535 	

39 	1:16.230 	-0.305

40 	1:16.483 	+0.253

41 	1:16.464 	-0.019

42 	1:16.619 	+0.155

43 	---- 	

44 	1:16.619 	

45 	1:14.238 	-2.381

46 	1:15.371 	+1.133

47 	1:19.947 	+4.576

48 	1:15.072 	-4.875

49 	---- 	

55 	1:20.355 	

56 	1:20.707 	+0.352

57 	1:20.743 	+0.036

58 	1:21.004 	+0.261

59 	1:21.406 	+0.402

60 	1:21.238 	-0.168

61 	1:21.524 	+0.286

62 	---- 	

77 	1:19.161 	

78 	1:19.012 	-0.149

79 	1:19.372 	+0.36

80 	---- 	

81 	1:19.372 	

82 	---- 	

83 	1:19.181 	

84 	1:19.683 	+0.502

85 	1:19.077 	-0.606

86 	1:20.303 	+1.226

87 	1:19.578 	-0.725

88 	1:19.348 	-0.23

89 	1:19.555 	+0.207

90 	1:19.469 	-0.086

91 	1:19.263 	-0.206

92 	1:19.387 	+0.124

93 	1:19.393 	+0.006

94 	1:19.448 	+0.055

95 	1:19.210 	-0.238

96 	1:20.864 	+1.654

97 	1:19.927 	-0.937

98 	---- 	

99 	1:19.927 	

100 	1:19.469 	-0.458

101 	---- 	

102 	1:19.469 	

103 	1:14.567 	-4.902

104 	1:22.316 	+7.749

105 	1:14.953 	-7.363

106 	1:15.313 	+0.36

107 	---- 	

108 	1:15.313 	

109 	1:16.139 	+0.826

110 	1:15.990 	-0.149

111 	1:15.843 	-0.147

112 	---- 	

113 	1:15.843 	

114 	1:16.224 	+0.381

 

[snowy]

SCHUMACHER

3 	1:23.996 	

4 	---- 	

5 	1:23.996 	

6 	1:16.019 	-7.977

7 	1:16.062 	+0.043

8 	---- 	

9 	1:16.062 	

10 	1:16.250 	+0.188

11 	1:16.149 	-0.101

12 	1:16.846 	+0.697

13 	---- 	

14 	1:16.846 	

15 	1:14.537 	-2.309

16 	1:14.900 	+0.363

17 	1:15.254 	+0.354

18 	1:16.185 	+0.931

19 	1:15.980 	-0.205

20 	---- 	

21 	1:15.980 	

22 	1:14.697 	-1.283

23 	1:16.087 	+1.39

24 	1:15.645 	-0.442

25 	1:16.050 	+0.405

26 	1:16.609 	+0.559

27 	---- 	

28 	1:16.609 	

29 	1:19.404 	+2.795

30 	1:15.366 	-4.038

31 	1:16.346 	+0.98

32 	1:16.092 	-0.254

33 	1:16.280 	+0.188

34 	1:16.543 	+0.263

35 	---- 	

36 	1:16.543 	

37 	1:16.882 	+0.339

38 	1:16.769 	-0.113

39 	1:17.602 	+0.833

40 	1:17.360 	-0.242

41 	---- 	

42 	1:17.360 	

43 	1:17.402 	+0.042

44 	1:17.511 	+0.109

45 	1:18.357 	+0.846

46 	---- 	

54 	1:17.518 	

55 	1:17.358 	-0.16

56 	1:17.497 	+0.139

57 	1:18.335 	+0.838

58 	---- 	

59 	1:18.152 	

60 	1:18.450 	+0.298

61 	1:18.717 	+0.267

62 	1:18.870 	+0.153

63 	1:19.041 	+0.171

64 	1:19.435 	+0.394

65 	1:20.698 	+1.263

66 	---- 	

67 	1:20.698 	

68 	1:15.756 	-4.942

69 	1:15.840 	+0.084

70 	1:16.113 	+0.273

71 	1:15.914 	-0.199

72 	1:16.101 	+0.187

73 	1:16.168 	+0.067

74 	1:16.156 	-0.012

75 	1:16.398 	+0.242

76 	1:16.085 	-0.313

77 	1:16.231 	+0.146

78 	1:16.669 	+0.438

79 	1:16.573 	-0.096

80 	1:16.930 	+0.357

81 	1:16.725 	-0.205

82 	1:17.680 	+0.955

83 	1:16.728 	-0.952

84 	1:16.700 	-0.028

85 	1:17.461 	+0.761

86 	1:17.903 	+0.442

87 	1:18.197 	+0.294

88 	---- 	

89 	1:18.197 	

90 	1:15.666 	-2.531

91 	1:16.215 	+0.549

92 	1:15.923 	-0.292

93 	1:16.542 	+0.619

94 	1:16.584 	+0.042

95 	1:17.062 	+0.478

96 	---- 	

97 	1:17.062 	

98 	1:18.796 	+1.734

99 	1:18.616 	-0.18

100 	---- 	

101 	1:18.616 	

102 	---- 	

103 	1:18.616 	

104 	1:17.520 	-1.096

105 	1:16.998 	-0.522

106 	1:16.369 	-0.629

107 	1:15.964 	-0.405

108 	1:16.019 	+0.055

109 	1:20.050 	+4.031

110 	---- 

 

[snowy]

KARTHIKEYAN

1 	---- 	

2 		

3 	1:23.102 	-36.898

4 	---- 	

5 	1:23.102 	

6 	1:23.206 	+0.104

7 	1:23.327 	+0.121

8 	---- 	

9 	1:23.327 	

10 	1:18.044 	-5.283

11 	1:17.654 	-0.39

12 	---- 	

13 	1:17.654 	

14 	1:18.377 	+0.723

15 	1:17.951 	-0.426

16 	1:17.806 	-0.145

17 	1:17.785 	-0.021

18 	---- 	

19 	1:17.785 	

20 	1:18.257 	+0.472

21 	1:18.198 	-0.059

22 	1:18.549 	+0.351

23 	1:19.248 	+0.699

24 	---- 	

25 	1:19.248 	

26 	1:18.940 	-0.308

27 	1:19.735 	+0.795

28 	1:19.522 	-0.213

29 	---- 	

30 	1:19.522 	

31 	1:17.466 	-2.056

32 	1:16.997 	-0.469

33 	1:17.334 	+0.337

34 	1:18.233 	+0.899

35 	---- 	

36 	1:18.233 	

37 	1:17.556 	-0.677

38 	1:24.562 	+7.006

39 	1:17.733 	-6.829

40 	1:17.480 	-0.253

41 	---- 	

42 	1:17.480 	

43 	1:19.034 	+1.554

44 	1:18.583 	-0.451

45 	1:20.814 	+2.231

46 	1:18.403 	-2.411

47 	1:23.926 	+5.523

48 	---- 	

49 	1:23.926 	

50 	1:18.523 	-5.403

51 	1:21.275 	+2.752

52 	1:18.468 	-2.807

53 	1:18.328 	-0.14

54 	---- 	

55 	1:18.328 	

57 	1:16.535 	-1.793

58 	1:17.192 	+0.657

59 	---- 	

60 	1:17.192 	

61 	1:16.782 	-0.41

62 	1:19.161 	+2.379

63 	----

 

[snowy]

PEREZ

4 	1:16.875

5 	1:16.399 	-0.476

6 	----

7 	1:16.399

8 	1:17.255 	+0.856

9 	----

10 	1:17.255

11 	----

12 	1:16.783

13 	1:16.198 	-0.585

14 	1:20.557 	+4.359

15 	----

16 	1:22.984

17 	1:16.418 	-6.566

18 	1:21.469 	+5.051

19 	1:16.651 	-4.818

20 	1:16.404 	-0.247

21 	1:16.252 	-0.152

22 	1:18.936 	+2.684

23 	----

24 	1:20.969

25 	1:18.473 	-2.496

26 	1:21.146 	+2.673

27 	1:16.566 	-4.58

28 	1:16.393 	-0.173

29 	1:16.384 	-0.009

30 	1:16.393 	+0.009

31 	1:16.832 	+0.439

32 	1:17.405 	+0.573

33 	----

34 	1:17.405

35 	1:15.627 	-1.778

36 	1:16.059 	+0.432

37 	1:16.037 	-0.022

38 	1:16.169 	+0.132

39 	----

40 	1:16.169

41 	1:16.144 	-0.025

42 	1:15.962 	-0.182

43 	1:16.109 	+0.147

44 	1:16.362 	+0.253

45 	1:16.775 	+0.413

47 	1:15.941 	-0.834

48 	----

55 	1:17.068

62 	1:18.125 	+1.057

63 	1:14.469 	-3.656

64 	1:18.814 	+4.345

65 	1:15.507 	-3.307

66 	----

67 	1:15.507

68 	1:15.271 	-0.236

69 	1:15.311 	+0.04

70 	1:15.764 	+0.453

71 	1:16.130 	+0.366

72 	1:16.579 	+0.449

73 	1:16.351 	-0.228

74 	----

75 	1:16.351

76 	1:17.605 	+1.254

77 	----

78 	1:17.605

79 	----

80 	1:15.462

81 	----

82 	1:15.914

83 	1:16.674 	+0.76

84 	1:16.605 	-0.069

85 	----

86 	1:16.605

87 	----

88 	1:17.047

89 	1:16.964 	-0.083

90 	----

91 	1:16.964

92 	----

93 	1:16.964

94 	1:18.222 	+1.258

95 	----

96 	1:17.535

97 	----

98 	1:17.535

99 	----

100 	1:15.837

101 	----

102 	1:15.837

103

104